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Old 11-06-2005, 06:10 AM
pryor15 pryor15 is offline
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Default have i completely lost it?

looking through hand histories...am i just giving money away here?

UTG+2 is 30.6/3.4/1.36 over 700 hands. he ain't too bright.
CO is 13.7/4.9/1 over 350 hands


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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] , 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] .
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

River: (6.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB
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Old 11-06-2005, 06:20 AM
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Default Re: have i completely lost it?

looked at this for a while.... im finding it hard to make an argument for a call even for metagame purposes when literally ANY two cards above 8 beat you. 30.6 aint that high.

i think your definitely looking for chop value (vil holds A8 or lower), which means you need to get that about 1 in 3.5 times if my maths is correct? i dont think your ever gonna get that here.

with an AF of 1.25 i dont often see him betting a weak ace in to 2 people anyway....

yeah preflop turn and flop are fine, but i fold the river.

note: i would probably have made the same mistake and called this in game, especially multitabling
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Old 11-06-2005, 06:21 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: have i completely lost it?

i dont like check calling on this board much at all. he's unlikely to bet his weak aces or other pairs here when you check. if you check here it should be to check fold, because you're basically giving him credit for having a better hand often enough that your inital bet isn't even worth wasting. this could easily be the case on a board such as this one.
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Old 11-06-2005, 12:16 PM
Webster Webster is offline
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Default Re: have i completely lost it?

You have to bet that river. I understand you motive for checking but . . . .it's wrong.

UTG+2, CO could have all sorts of things and call down a bet and lose. Happens all the time.
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