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Old 11-05-2005, 06:10 PM
hemstock hemstock is offline
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Default QQ - Flops a fullhouse

BB is an unknown. Sat at the table a couple of orbits ago
MP2 is a Loose and passive fish.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.50.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (16.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (14.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (17.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 26.25 BB

Thoughs?
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Old 11-05-2005, 06:34 PM
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Default Re: QQ - Flops a fullhouse

I'm pretty sure that someone of those two is gonna turn over AA-KK here. For two people besides yourself to be willing to bet, raise, and cap this board over and over again doesn't sound like a low pocket pair to me. So i aggree with the call down on the turn and the river, but I'm still only halfway through SSH, so.....
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Old 11-05-2005, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: QQ - Flops a fullhouse

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MP2 is a Loose and passive fish.

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River: (17.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero...

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I might consider a fold here if I knew MP2 was very passive. I hate to put villains on a single hand, but this looks like TT from a passive MP2 here. Other than that, I see AA-TT as possibilities for BB and MP2.

You've thrown them off a bit by checking the turn, so they may put you on AK and play more confidently. (BTW, why did you check the turn?)

I don't know. I could fold to the river raise if the read on MP2 was solid.
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Old 11-05-2005, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: QQ - Flops a fullhouse

What, you came in third?

MP2 missed a bet on the turn with his A2 off.

BB apparently thought his rockets were good when he didn't capped preflop and then didn't miss a bet.

Bad beat, dude.
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Old 11-05-2005, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: QQ - Flops a fullhouse

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MP2 missed a bet on the turn with his A2 off.

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A passive player raises A2o after 2 limpers?

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BB apparently thought his rockets were good when he didn't capped preflop and then didn't miss a bet.

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Possible.

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Bad beat, dude.

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Yeeeeaahhh no.

Put some more thought into your posts.
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Old 11-05-2005, 06:55 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: QQ - Flops a fullhouse

Why are you capping the flop if you're checking the brick on the turn?
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Old 11-05-2005, 07:00 PM
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If I cap the flop I lead the turn and see how they react. If they are still going nuts one of them's got to be raising AA or KK.
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Old 11-05-2005, 07:00 PM
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These types of hands play themselves. You are trapped to the end.

Seems like you might be behind with the amount of aggressiveness.

There is no way I'm folding..i'd raise the turn and then if there is aggression I'd slow way down with the intention of just trying to see a showdown.

I don't think I ever fold
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Old 11-05-2005, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: QQ - Flops a fullhouse

Your flop bet/cap is atrocious.
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Old 11-05-2005, 07:12 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: QQ - Flops a fullhouse

folding the flop for two cold looks good. MP2, the passive fish, has AA more than KK here, and he basically never has QQ - one because you have it, two because passive players aren't too likely to 3-bet QQ on this flop.
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