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10-27-2005, 10:12 PM
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Head Up Hypothetical Holdem Question
You are playing a tough opponent, head up 100-200 limit holdem. Blinds are 50 on the button and 100.
Suppose you give him the button every time with the stipulation that he must raise preflop every time and bet the flop every time. If you reraise preflop or bet the flop he has no obligation. Would you win? 
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#2
10-27-2005, 10:44 PM
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Re: Head Up Hypothetical Holdem Question
Since he has to raise preflop, wouldnt you technically have position on him? since he has no choice what to do?
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#3
10-27-2005, 11:17 PM
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Re: Head Up Hypothetical Holdem Question
I feel like a peon responding due to the fact I'm probably wrong and this is the great Sklansky but here are my initial thoughts...
1. You will have the better hand roughly 50% of the time, as will he. When you have the better hand it's to your advantage he is forced to put money in the pot. When your hand is worse it's not that big of a disadvantage, as you would most likely be folding preflop or check folding the flop anyway (and only losing - .25 BB each preflop fold). 2. When you pick up a very good hand the best play would be to call preflop and then check-raise his forced flop bet. This situation will most likely result in +1.0 BB assuming he folds to your check raise. And if he doesn't the hand continues with him having position but you having a strong hand. Is that a decent initial analysis?
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#4
10-28-2005, 12:39 AM
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Re: Head Up Hypothetical Holdem Question
If the Button was to raise 100 every time, it would be as if you have Button and the game is 100/200, only you have to act first after the Flop.
With the stipulation that your opponent has to bet the Flop when you do not, you are at a great advantage, as you don't have to bet your Monster hands on the Flop, nor when the Flop hits you hard. I don't see how you can lose when your opponent is "forced" to bet more often than you.
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#7
10-28-2005, 03:20 AM
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Re: Head Up Hypothetical Holdem Question
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No [/ QUOTE ] why not?
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#8
10-28-2005, 03:37 AM
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Re: Head Up Hypothetical Holdem Question
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You are playing a tough opponent, head up 100-200 limit holdem. Blinds are 50 on the button and 100. Suppose you give him the button every time with the stipulation that he must raise preflop every time and bet the flop every time. If you reraise preflop or bet the flop he has no obligation. Would you win? [/ QUOTE ] How can you possibly lose? He has to put in 200 preflop every hand and has to bet the flop. You fold preflop with the bottom 20% holdings. You call with the 20%-100% holdings. You check the Flop 100% of the time. He gets your big blind everytime you have the 20% bottom holdings. He pays you 300 minimum, every time you have a good hand or hit the Flop and win. I just don't see how you can lose, when he is committed to putting in 300 with his 20% worse holdings, unless you have the same type holdings a vast majority of the time. All you have to do, is just call his bets until the Turn. Then you bet TPGK or better. So, when you have a good hand, you are guaranteed at least 300 from your opponent. When he has a good hand, he has no guarantee.
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#9
10-28-2005, 09:07 AM
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Re: Head Up Hypothetical Holdem Question
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So, when you have a good hand, you are guaranteed at least 300 from your opponent. When he has a good hand, he has no guarantee. [/ QUOTE ] Are you sure? In the same sense that you're "guaranteed" at least 300, he's "guaranteed" at least 100. And when you get to the turn, he starts out in position with tons of information about your hand and bet sizes of 200, while you start out of position with zero information about his hand. I assume when you get to the turn, you're mostly looking to get to a showdown. He can make that cost you at least 400 more while getting the option of a free card, or at least 600 more if you lead out the turn, but you were only able to make him put 300 into the pot.
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#10
10-28-2005, 09:38 AM
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Re: Head Up Hypothetical Holdem Question
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You are playing a tough opponent, head up 100-200 limit holdem. Blinds are 50 on the button and 100. Suppose you give him the button every time with the stipulation that he must raise preflop every time and bet the flop every time. If you reraise preflop or bet the flop he has no obligation. Would you win? [/ QUOTE ] If this was a winning "unbeatable" strategy when you hold the button then wouldn't everybody already be doing it?
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