Play along in the small blind

[sean c]

This was a hand posted in micros the other day i thought was interesting on all streets and quite frankly the type of hand i struggle with OOP so i thought i would try it play along style.

Party full ring. Both villians in this hand are your typical party low limit loose passive calling stations.

Pre flop: folds to button who open limps, hero has A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in the SB.

Is this a clear value raise even though the BB is likely to come along, we are completely OOP and will likely need to make a hand to win?

What if we had another limper or two?

What if hero held Q9s or A5s instead?

[@bsolute_luck]

i post in the micros all the time- don't know how i missed this hand. easy preflop raise as we very likely could have the best hand and don't have to "make a hand" yet especially if weak Button is limping with A3o or some such trash.

[lautzutao]

Easy raise.

[sean c]

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i post in the micros all the time- don't know how i missed this hand. easy preflop raise as we very likely could have the best hand and don't have to "make a hand" yet especially if weak Button is limping with A3o or some such trash.

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[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] What about A5s or Q9s or what if we add a limper or two.

[shant]

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Easy raise.

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Yeah, let's see a flop.

[shant]

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[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] What about A5s or Q9s or what if we add a limper or two.

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I don't know about anyone else, but more limpers I'd still raise A9s here. I'd complete the others.

[sean c]

Pre flop: folds to button who open limps, hero raises with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], BB calls and button calls.

Flop(3 players 6sb): 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Hero?

[crazygoose]

I would definitely lead b/c we will have the best hand here most of the time. Plus you have overs and a backdoor draw.

[ErrantNight]

not to be a dick, but this hand (which i haven't read) sounds already like it's much more applicable to micros than it is small and up. starting with an openlimp on the button. that's horrible. your hand is favorable to his range of cards, and certainly better than random. i think this is a remarkably easy raise. with a few more limpers, say, an unknown open limps MP1 and a tag limps behind in the hijack and now chumpy mchumperson limps on the button i'm fine just limping because you don't have a great multiway hand and you're out of position the rest of the way.

so we still have only the open limper and you hold Q9s (or A5s). first off, what kind of loose passives are these? always peel to the flop, and call with any piece on the turn, regardless? or will they fold the flop without a piece when you raise? will they showdown less than A high? with either hand i'm more likely to limp along, as any postflop calls they make are less likely to be correct, and how passive versus how loose the button is. i.e.: does he only raise premium holdings but is not that loose? in which case you shouldn't be raising these marginal hands as they may not be significantly better, if any better at all, than what villain is holding.

but really, it comes down to how capable you are of pushing these guys off hands with outs against you (say, when you miss entirely).

[krimson]

Easy bet. There is no way you're raising pre-flop and the checking on this flop. You likely have the best hand, and you have fold equity from the pre-flop raise.