AKo Was this a good fold?

#1 10-24-2005, 01:11 PM

O.K. I'm pretty confident that my 3-bet PF was the right play but after that I'm lost. Should I have bet the flop? And after the cc on the flop was my fold the best decision?

MP1 27.45/0
MP3 18.75/12.5
Button No Info

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 raises, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP3 raises, Button calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP3 raises, Button calls, Hero folds, MP1 3-bets, MP3 calls, Button calls.

River: (19.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 bets, MP3 calls, Button folds.

Final Pot: 21.50 BB

MrWookie47 · #2 10-24-2005, 01:14 PM

Getting 18:2 on the flop, you could even find a fold. That's a pretty lousy flop for you.

Koss · #3 10-24-2005, 01:17 PM

Fold the flop. You're not going to improve often enough, and when you do, it's too likely to make you a 2nd best hand. Your over cards are at best about 3 outs here, and that is pushing it. The pot odds are tempting, but your winning chances are very very slim. Let this one go.

lautzutao · #4 10-24-2005, 01:22 PM

Definitely fold that turn, no question.

#5 10-24-2005, 01:28 PM

Your check on the flop tells any of your thinking opponents that you have two over cards, or a small pair and you missed the flop. With a bet and a raise after you check, just dump the hand. You're getting 13:2 pot odds (assuming call behind you and no more raises as it happened), and if you optimistically assume top pair will win you're odds of hitting is 6.7:1, implied odds are better if you hit, but that assumes top pair holds up.

TomBrooks · #6 10-24-2005, 01:33 PM

I like folding the flop more than calling.

Cold calling 2 bigs on the turn would be spewing.

#7 10-24-2005, 03:08 PM

I would fold the flop.

You have two overs and a bd str, so that's 4.5 outs at best. With the action on the flop, it is unlikely those outs are even good. I would guess it was something like a two pair versus a set on the flop (which obviously changed when the 7 came on the river). Even though the pot was large I don't think it was large enough to call 2 bets.

deception5 · #8 10-24-2005, 03:23 PM

I would consider leading this flop, but check/folding if it's 2 back is a good option as well. If it was 1 bet to you I would definitely call.

Disconnected · #9 10-24-2005, 04:00 PM

Your preflop 3-bet is fine. With 3 opponents, I think checking this flop is fine. With 2 opponents or HU, I'd feel compelled to make a continuation bet, and there's a better chance my hand is either good or live.

On this hand, when it's two back to you on the flop, I'd fold. In general overcard outs are reduced because you can't be sure they're good, and that certainly is true on this board. Plus, the player that led is leading into the original preflop raiser, and doensn't know that they preflop 3-bettor won't be checkraising behind.

Seeing that you did call the flop, folding the turn is a no-brainer.

As a small posting point, no need to post any action after your fold.

car ramrod · #10 10-24-2005, 04:13 PM

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Getting 18:2 on the flop, you could even find a fold. That's a pretty lousy flop for you.

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