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Old 10-19-2005, 05:09 PM
bigredlemon bigredlemon is offline
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Default stud8 trips vs trips - Call this down or muck 5th?

7 Card Stud High-Low ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.88 SB)

Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___folds
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises

4th Street - (6.38 SB)

Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___raises
Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls___calls
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls

5th Street - (9.19 BB)

Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (12.19 BB)

Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets

River - (15.19 BB)

Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___calls
Seat 8: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___bets

Total pot: (18.19 BB)


Given all the action on 5th I'm almost certain villain just hit trip kings. Everywhere I've read says it's never much of a mistake if you never fold trips though I'm beggining to wonder how true that is since somtimes it's just so obvious that you just to throw it away. I'm sure I could have saved a lot of money doing so in recent months. Is this one of those times?
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Old 10-19-2005, 05:20 PM
dibbs dibbs is offline
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Default Re: stud8 trips vs trips - Call this down or muck 5th?

Am curious about this spot as well, so I have nothing really to offer.

Here I call down though given the fact you can boat, backdoor a low or a flush, it can be assumed you'll be getting bets from seat 6 in here too I'd imagine.

Would not be surprised if I'm wrong though.
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Old 10-19-2005, 05:31 PM
greenage greenage is offline
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Default Re: stud8 trips vs trips - Call this down or muck 5th?

It sure looks like split Kings. Could also be Queens/Jacks? Maybe a raise on fifth and fold to a re-raise? That doesn't seem definitive because of your board. He may just call thinking you have the low or re-raise two pair there.
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Old 10-19-2005, 05:32 PM
Backstabr Backstabr is offline
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Default Re: stud8 trips vs trips - Call this down or muck 5th?

If you really don't think (AA)K is in his range and he's not crazy, you can do the math (you can assume you are drawing to a scoop). I'm not folding. The pot is huge. I suspect the math will tell you that worst case, it's a small loss.
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Old 10-19-2005, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: stud8 trips vs trips - Call this down or muck 5th?

two things on fifth. THe pot is rather large and you KNOW he hasn't boated yet. If he has trips (which it kinda looks like it) you have a much better chance of improving than he does. Also you have a shot at a low. I call fifth and heck, I call to showdown too.
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