bet/fold the river?

therockofgibraltar · #1 10-18-2005, 03:04 AM

I have started doing this bet/fold stuff on the river. I find it kind of stupid though. I have many hands like this one but I only post one of them to get the picture.

Villain is loose-passive: 64/4 and AF 0,78

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (9 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, BB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 12 BB

My thinking was that if I bet they could call me down with worse Q, or J or something because they are so loose AND if I get raised, I am very likely to be against trips because there were no FD of SD out there n the flop.

I used to caal these down but here in 1/2 they never bluff so it's kind of stupid to call a river c/r.

#2 10-18-2005, 03:08 AM

1-2 is full of crazyness. Between that many opponents, im sure one of them will bluff 1/9 (or is it 1/12?) times. Call and win.

therockofgibraltar · #3 10-18-2005, 03:18 AM

Same villain.... I just had to know he had. No surprise there.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: (2 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds.

River: (4 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB

VIllain shows 85o

therockofgibraltar · #4 10-18-2005, 03:23 AM

Villain is the same

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 2 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

He shows 65o.

NO MORE CALLING THESE RIVER RAISES! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

ArturiusX · #5 10-18-2005, 03:25 AM

I call the first hand, last two is pretty bad.

deepsquat · #6 10-18-2005, 03:26 AM

Im calling hands 1 & 3, Hand 2 i let go.

therockofgibraltar · #7 10-18-2005, 03:40 AM

So in small pots it is definitely no no? Othertimes you can consider it?

zephed · #8 10-18-2005, 04:55 AM

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So in small pots it is definitely no no? Othertimes you can consider it?

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I'm always folding hand 2 because the pot is small, unless he's really lag.

I will pretty much always call hands one and three. I don't fold unless I've got a read.