Aggression

soah · #1 10-12-2005, 12:24 PM

I feel like I play pretty aggressive. I'm certain I'm more aggressive than a typical player (and I have stats to support it). I like to bet. If I have more than four outs I'll bet into any number of opponents on the flop. I take stabs at uncontested pots.

But I don't raise much (postflop). Especially in position. Especially heads up in raised pots. When someone bets a reasonable amount, I just call. If they keep betting on future streets I give them credit for a hand and see how mine compares. If they stop betting, then (usually) I'll start betting for them. Sometimes people will trick me and checkraise. But that's not too much of a threat to me because sometimes I just take a free card with my draws (especially if I have a little something I can showdown unimproved) and sometimes I'll have the nuts. And with a marginal hand I can get away somewhat cheaply after such a display of strength. And against known tricky/aggressive players I can wait until the river to see if they've still checked again. (Players who raise preflop, bet the flop, check the turn, and then check the river again seem to fold far more than what I'd expect... I feel like my river bluffs are completely transparent here, but they have actually been pretty effective.)

So in place of semi-bluff raises, I end up doing a lot of delayed semi-bluffs and other weird stuff like that. Against typical players I still end up picking up quite a few pots when my opponent gives up, but my aggression doesn't really kick in until they have shown weakness. Against LAgs however, I am always on the defensive since they are perfectly willing to fire more barrels at me and my hands are usually marginal. They keep all the pressure on me and I don't put much pressure on them. This is bad.

Discuss.

TheWorstPlayer · #2 10-12-2005, 09:55 PM

I don't know how this got zero responses. I feel like I have a lot to say on this topic, but I have no time to say it right now. But here's a bump. People should discuss this.

mudbuddha · #3 10-12-2005, 10:00 PM

what's a delayed semibluff

orange · #4 10-12-2005, 10:07 PM

you have A4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

flop comes : 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
you check/ opponent checks

turn: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
you bet

I think thats what a delayed semi bluff is?

TheWorstPlayer · #5 10-12-2005, 10:09 PM

More often you have postion, you flat call flop and raise turn. It can be a great play.

mudbuddha · #6 10-12-2005, 10:09 PM

is that delayed or just pickin up more outs?

mudbuddha · #7 10-12-2005, 10:11 PM

this is asssuming you have cards similiar t o the ones orange presented?

TheWorstPlayer · #8 10-12-2005, 10:13 PM

Yeah, but you don't have to have picked up the gutshot. It can just be calling the flop and then raising the turn with a flush draw or OESD or whatever instead of just raising the flop.

orange · #9 10-12-2005, 10:15 PM

yeah, gutshot was a mistake, I just put in a random number.

edit: another example would be like A7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

flop: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
villan checks/ you check

turn: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
villan bets/ you raise

mudbuddha · #10 10-12-2005, 10:29 PM

i often check.. then end up raising aggressive players with marginal hands.. usually works. but its not really a planned check raise.. just happens that i want to be in the hand with any pair vs certain lags