this one felt weird

daryn · #1 10-15-2005, 08:40 PM

just sat down, no reads

can i find a raise in here anywhere without spewing? bet river?

Ultimate Bet 50/100 Hold'em (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 raises, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 bets, MP2 folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (6.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

baronzeus · #2 10-15-2005, 08:41 PM

i raise the turn. why not bet the river when checked to? ppl will call with 5s, 2s, king high, 77-33, and youre really only worried about 99-JJ but those seem pretty unlikely.

edit: btw good job checking twice on the river.

daryn · #3 10-15-2005, 08:47 PM

i always check twice like santa claus

#4 10-15-2005, 09:03 PM

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just sat down, no reads

can i find a raise in here anywhere without spewing? bet river?

Ultimate Bet 50/100 Hold'em (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 raises, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 bets, MP2 folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (6.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

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I think you need to raise this flop to force out any overcard hands like KQ or any two higher cards that may make a loose flop call, if you believe people will fold these type of hands for one small bet than your play is ok to me.

The Truth · #5 10-15-2005, 09:07 PM

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i raise the turn. why not bet the river when checked to? ppl will call with 5s, 2s, king high, 77-33, and youre really only worried about 99-JJ but those seem pretty unlikely.

edit: btw good job checking twice on the river.

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I agree with raising turn. This will put SB out of the pot if he has any overs.

If you don't raise the turn, I can't see why you wouldn't bet this river when checked too. SB will pay off with some little pair and mp will fold most likely.

-blake

Steve Giufre · #6 10-15-2005, 09:24 PM

I think raising the turn is fine, as long as he isnt real aggro. A lot of players will be aware of the fact that you probably have some sort of pair and are just looking to get to a showdown. So as long as he isnt the type to three bet you with a worse hand I like it. If I had just called the turn, I'd probably bet the river.

Just saw that you have no read. In that case I like calling the turn and betting the river

Dominic · #7 10-15-2005, 09:30 PM

just curious, why aren't you raising this to shut out the blinds? I'm asking because this is the kind of hand I always seem to get into trouble with...

Steve Giufre · #8 10-15-2005, 09:34 PM

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just curious, why aren't you raising this to shut out the blinds? I'm asking because this is the kind of hand I always seem to get into trouble with...

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Im probably three betting here too, not that it matters all that much what you do in this spot.

Justin A · #9 10-15-2005, 10:18 PM

Why would you check the river?

daryn · #10 10-15-2005, 11:11 PM

i thought it was possible a bigger pocket pair was out there and also chickened out on a river bet. i tried to think of what worse hands would call