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Old 10-15-2005, 07:55 PM
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Default Should I have slow-played the set here?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>...

The board had two connected broadways, the pot was large, and the table was fairly loose, so I opted for a raise. Should I be calling in these places since I'm so far ahead? I'm only worried about someone who weakly played AK pre-flop making a gutshot, and I'm worried about other straight draws... that's it! I will probably win here more than 80% of the time by the river!
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: Should I have slow-played the set here?

yeh call, keep the field and wait to turn to letrip/protect your hand.

AK = 1.5+1.5(Overcards each) + 3-4for gutshot.
6 to 7 outs needing 7:1 call, your raise gives them 7.5:1 you can't protect.
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: Should I have slow-played the set here?

nh

waiting is so ugly here.

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AK = 1.5+1.5(Overcards each) + 3-4for gutshot.
6 to 7 outs needing 7:1 call, your raise gives them 7.5:1 you can't protect.

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really? AK has overcard outs?
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: Should I have slow-played the set here?

I like the raise. Loose players like to call. Let them.
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:16 PM
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Default Re: Should I have slow-played the set here?

lol i appreciate the replys to my posts, but can you atleast explain why they dont?

Sure a king gives AT straight and others OESD... but i'd still class them as some outs.

Raise is ok though, i guess its up to the OP what the tables like. Pot is 12SB so nice size to start kicking people out.

P.s. You think the villan with AK puts hero on QQ for set and discounts all his outs?
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: Should I have slow-played the set here?

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P.s. You think the villan with AK puts hero on QQ for set and discounts all his outs?

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nope, and since he will likely call the raise with only 4 outs, we make money on it. you think i want AK to fold to my raise here?
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: Should I have slow-played the set here?

I think either raising or calling would be reasonable here. The value of raising is obvious. The value of calling is that it encourages everyone else to think no one has much of anything, and perhaps someone after you will reraise, and if not, SB will still likely bet into you on the turn, allowing you to reraise for the real money.
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Should I have slow-played the set here?

Not really sure if you want him to fold or not, But from raising we may make him fold yes, hence i thought calling to keep the field would be better(build a pot rather than eliminate opponents).

ofcourse a 12SB pot is large so we can start killing the field but i think AK may fold.

We dont know if he will or not, but surely raising = more inclined to fold? Then we lose his potential dead money(not forgetting we have ten outs once the turn comes to boat up).

and even if we did want him to fold we dont protect our hand. So if we want him to call, why dont we want others to call with one pair maybe?
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: Should I have slow-played the set here?

Pokher why do you want to give AK 14/1 odds to draw to his gutshot??
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Old 10-15-2005, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: Should I have slow-played the set here?

Slowplaying usually sucks. Slowplaying in a large pot ALWAYS sucks.
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