donk betting

[Dominic]

i understand the term "donkey." But what exactly constitutes a donk bet? And why is it different than a value bet? Or a semi-bluff? Or just a stone-cold bluff?

In other words, how does one recognize a donk bet?

And yes, I know that if I'm asking this question, the most likely reply will be, "any bet YOU make."

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[Ryno]

I have always assumed that it means "opening the action when you closed the action on the previous betting round."

[Dominic]

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I have always assumed that it means "opening the action when you closed the action on the previous betting round."

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isn't that just a continuation bet?

[asofel]

Say you raise PF in MP. BB calls.

BB checks flop, you bet, BB calls.

On the turn the BB bets.

[Dominic]

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Say you raise PF in MP. BB calls.

BB checks flop, you bet, BB calls.

On the turn the BB bets.

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So his turn bet is a donk bet? Why? Because he checked the flop and only called my bet? What if the turn brought an overcard to the board that paired him? Is it a donk bet because he should've gone for a CR?

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[goofball]

donk bet does not imply a stupid bet. A donkbet may be stupid but isn't by definition.

When you are out of position and your opponent was the aggressor on the previous street, and you bet the next one it's a donkbet.

[Dominic]

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donk bet does not imply a stupid bet. A donkbet may be stupid but isn't by definition.

When you are out of position and your opponent was the aggressor on the previous street, and you bet the next one it's a donkbet.

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hmmm....and it's not necessarily a "stupid" bet, huh?

Okay, thanks.

[Ryno]

I think it got that name when bad players would always bet out the turn with draws, or hands that they did not want to call down with (i.e. "this is the last bet I put in"), but they'd checkraise good hands. So you'd be in a hand and the fish bets and you raise and they call, and then they bet the turn and you raise and they fold. Or they'd just call and checkfold the river. But when they called your flop raise and checkraised back on the turn, they always had it and you could fold.

But donkbetting is right in some circumstances, like not wanting to allow a free card when an aggressive player raises the flop and you suspect he is light, but you want to see the turn before further antagonizing him. Or, in my example, the villian is hoping I read his donkbet as weakness so I raise and protect his hand.

[steveyz]

A donk bet is simply betting out into the aggressor of the last street. For example, someone raises, you call from the blinds and bet out on the flop. Or you check-call the flop and bet out on the turn. The purpose of a donk bet could be for anything from a value bet to a semi-bluff or pure bluff.

[DcifrThs]

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I have always assumed that it means "opening the action when you closed the action on the previous betting round."

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isn't that just a continuation bet?

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nope...it doesn't continue any action...

Barron