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Old 10-05-2005, 11:37 PM
obsidian obsidian is offline
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Default AJs bluff c/r

New to table so the only read I had was a stats read on UTG as 44/20/.9. Not much known about MP other than he seemed a little loose.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:19 AM
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i don't like it.

too much has to go right for this to work.

1. utg has to not have a king, or a decent pair that he wants to get to SD

2. mp has to have missed the flop as well, or be on a draw that doesn't come in

3. they both have to fold or you win UI which is gonna put you in a really awkward spot if you get called in both spots on the turn and the river is a blank

i guess i'd like it a little more if you had some clean outs to fall back on on the turn so that you at least have a shot at improve. this is basically turns into a two or three street bure bluff against 2 opponents who you know little about.
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:21 AM
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don't get me wrong, i'm a fan of bluffing and all but i'd just wait to choose a better spot.

if this worked out, you got very lucky imo.
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:34 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: AJs bluff c/r

Call me crazy, but I bet out here expecting to win the pot a majority of the time. Why trap people in this pot?
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:12 AM
wackjob wackjob is offline
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Default Re: AJs bluff c/r

3-bet this preflop

Since you didn't, I'd much rather make a move on the flop. If you get 3-bet on the flop you can just about gaurantee you are behind, but it also makes your bluff on the turn a lot more believable. However, I think ALL of this bluff crap is just too much tricky play - save it for the live games. It all goes back to how the hand plays so much differently when you 3-bet PF.
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Old 10-06-2005, 07:15 AM
deepsquat deepsquat is offline
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Default Re: AJs bluff c/r

[ QUOTE ]
Call me crazy, but I bet out here expecting to win the pot a majority of the time. Why trap people in this pot?

[/ QUOTE ]

hey mate,

why do u think we are winning this pot outright with a flop bet? I just dont see it. + How do u put villains on non K holdings?

cheers
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:49 AM
Roy6 Roy6 is offline
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Default Re: AJs bluff c/r

With MP calling I definitely fold the flop. Are you a maniac?
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:57 AM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Re: AJs bluff c/r

If this is your default line it's really horrible.

Krishan - 154
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:17 PM
RunDownHouse RunDownHouse is offline
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No way you're folding them both out on the turn. And then what?

Looks like you spewed a little bit here.
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: AJs bluff c/r

If u like this bluff u got to bluff a lot when u miss because there is nothing in your holecards, in the flopped cards, in your position or in the flopaction that gives u a reason to bluff.
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