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Old 09-26-2005, 06:01 PM
r3vbr r3vbr is offline
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Default What do you think about this push?

villan is loose agressive, was raising me out of several pots. i decided it was time to make a stand here. is it a bad push?


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UTG+1 ($200.85)
MP1 ($2741.25)
MP2 ($1051)
MP3 ($1117)
CO ($1369.40)
Button ($1077)
Hero ($1690.75)
BB ($1003.50)
UTG ($1063)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $30</font>, MP3 calls $30, CO calls $30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $180</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls $150.

Flop: ($430) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $220</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $440</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1200</font>, CO calls $749.40 (All-In).

Turn: ($2819.40) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($2819.40) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $2819.40

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ad Ks (one pair, eights).
CO has Jh Jd (two pair, jacks and eights).
Outcome: CO wins $2808.80. Hero wins $10.59. </font>
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Old 09-26-2005, 06:03 PM
r3vbr r3vbr is offline
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Default Re: What do you think about this push?

I actually put him on middle pair. 88 99 TT JJ were all good guesses. also he might have folded QQ,

He'd maybe even fold KK there (of course nobody would play KK like that ehheeh) but what i mean to say is that considering the way I played it preflop, it was very very hard for someone to call me witout a set.

few people push that without aces i think

oh, my table image was of tight agressive (my vpip for this session was 16)
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Old 09-26-2005, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: What do you think about this push?

All he was representing was a set. And I guessed he'd either raise more with one, or slow play it.
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Old 09-26-2005, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: What do you think about this push?

them party boys can't lay overpairs you know that
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Old 09-26-2005, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: What do you think about this push?

this hand was at pokerstars.. and at PS peole (usually) lay down eheh
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Old 09-26-2005, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: What do you think about this push?

Why do you want to play a big pot OOP with AK? I know he has been pushing you around but you need to pick your spots.
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Old 09-26-2005, 08:17 PM
lapoker17 lapoker17 is offline
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Default Re: What do you think about this push?

Full ring, you don't comment on MP, but you're showing him no respect - perhaps with reason - in any event the pf reraise is bad OOP w AKo. Whats wrong with just calling?

Also, looks like you'll have position on your nemesis most of the time, make your stand then.
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Old 09-26-2005, 08:39 PM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: What do you think about this push?

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villan is loose agressive, was raising me out of several pots.

[/ QUOTE ]

If villian is smart, he knows you're waiting to make a play at him.

Call PF. Check/Fold flop.
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Old 09-26-2005, 11:01 PM
sawseech sawseech is offline
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Default Re: What do you think about this push?

a) he's even stupider than you thought
b) he thinks you won't push QQ+ here
c) he just sucks and doesn't think about anything

i vote c
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Old 09-26-2005, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: What do you think about this push?

Why is a reraise so awful here? I understand that he's OOP but that still gives him first chance to bet postflop.

I just didn't like the size of the reraise. I thought making it $180 was a little too much.

When you call w/ AK, you'll miss 2/3 times (I know you guys know this)... and then when he CBs you're probably done with your hand.

If you reraise and he calls, HE'S probably the one missing 2/3 times (and not necessarily feeling comfortable if he hits a piece). Therefore, you gain a much better chance to win the now inflated pot.

As well, if he thinks you're going to make this play against him, why not do it with a great hand like AK, where if you *do* hit you might get his stack?

Ryan
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