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Old 10-04-2005, 09:01 PM
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Default I flopped a set!

Party Poker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.00 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (13.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (19.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ??</font>

No reads.

At the flop, any hands that I'm behind for the button (a hand where the button would preflop raise into 2 + blinds)?

Flop: planned to C/R for value, but the c/r came from my right, didn't want to make the field eat 2 at once. After the 3-bet I figured what the hell, I'm ahead of all but 3 possible hands.

Turn: Standard I think.

River: What's my plan?
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Old 10-04-2005, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: I flopped a set!

raise.

mp2 raised preflop with a 3?
i doubt it.
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Old 10-04-2005, 09:06 PM
Duerig Duerig is offline
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Default Re: I flopped a set!

I probably 3 bet the turn. As you played it, I would bet-call the river.
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Old 10-04-2005, 09:06 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: I flopped a set!

why oh why did you fail to three bet the turn?

bet the river because button is now scared.
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Old 10-04-2005, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: I flopped a set!

First, I don't know why I didn't 3-bet the turn... Didn't even notice that til you brought it up.

Back to the hand:

Party Poker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.00 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (13.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (19.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, Hero ???

Now what? I need my mommy.
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Old 10-04-2005, 09:42 PM
Obliky Obliky is offline
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Default Re: I flopped a set!

i fold this now..i cant think of anything MP2 could have that your beating.

My prediction: MP2 has 78

Edit: Wow i reckon thats the most weak/tight post ive ever written..
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Old 10-04-2005, 10:08 PM
Nightbrace Nightbrace is offline
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Default Re: I flopped a set!

Flop: check raise for value?? WHAT?? With that flop? What if they all check behind you? Check-raising may be okay with an Ace or King on the board, but not with that flop. BET BET BET!!! Don't get cute, if they all check how can you know where you stand at all? I really don't think the turn play is standard, I would have raised. Well if you would have raised on the turn you would have really gotten some information, but even given the passive turn play, raise on the river and call a re-raise, if you lose to a higher set so be it, but playing this way will pay off much better in the long term.
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Old 10-04-2005, 10:14 PM
Nightbrace Nightbrace is offline
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Default Re: I flopped a set!

thought you were bet into on the river, well its easy enough bet for value on the river, and call a raise, why fold now? Obviously he's not too happy with his hand.
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Old 10-04-2005, 10:17 PM
Greg J Greg J is offline
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Default Re: I flopped a set!

Your checkraise attempt I think you should 3 bet the flop instead of smoothcalling when it gets back to you. Most of the time an unknown is only calling and not 3 betting. I think I would usually bet this flop instead of CRing, but I don't hate the CR line (as I like the occasional long bomb attempt).

This would change the dynamic of the later streets, but keep in mind at some point it becomes prudent to start slowing down.

As you played it the river is bet/call.
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Old 10-04-2005, 10:22 PM
tyler_cracker tyler_cracker is offline
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Default Re: I flopped a set!

You should go see a neurologist after not 3-betting this turn, as you may have an undiagnosed aneurysm.

[ QUOTE ]
bet the river because button is now scared.

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Who cares about button? Unless he has JJ (which he isn't folding for 1 bet) or unless he happens to have A3 (which he is never folding ever), we are crushing him. I'm way, way more worried about getting check-raised by MP2. I think i would still bet, though.
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