Stud hi. Now what?

Tilt · #1 10-05-2005, 04:17 PM

2/4 online, these super loose games get me so confused. Sorry for the manual conversion.

3rd St (with reads):
Seat 1: unknown [xx,xx,K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] Calls
Seat 3: Aggro, but not out of line [xx,xx,7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
Seat 7: Fishy [xx,xx,2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] Brings in
Seat 8: Very Fishy [xx,xx,8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] Calls
Seat 9: Hero [T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] Calls
Seat 10: unknown [xx,xx,A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] Folds

4th
Seat 1: [xx,xx,K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] checks
Seat 3: [xx,xx,7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] checks
Seat 7: [xx,xx,2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] checks
Seat 8: [xx,xx,8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] CHECKS
Seat 9: Hero [T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] checks

5th:
Seat 1: [xx,xx,K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] calls
Seat 3: [xx,xx,7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] calls
Seat 7: [xx,xx,2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] folds
Seat 8: [xx,xx,8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] calls
Seat 9: Hero [T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] BETS

6th:
Seat 1: [xx,xx,K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] folds
Seat 3: [xx,xx,7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] raises
Seat 7: [xx,xx,2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] folds
Seat 8: [xx,xx,8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] folds
Seat 9: Hero [T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] BETS___????

Is he really going to raise me with a hand in this big a field that I am ahead of here? If I am ahead, am I ahead by much?

#2 10-05-2005, 04:33 PM

No, he's raising you because he has the flush (or just possibly the straight). It would be silly to raise here without a hand that beats queens up.

PoorLawyer · #3 10-05-2005, 04:38 PM

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No, he's raising you because he has the flush (or just possibly the straight). It would be silly to raise here without a hand that beats queens up.

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sure looks like a flush to me. good luck on that redraw [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

bigredlemon · #4 10-05-2005, 04:41 PM

what about raising with a small two pair to buy a cheap showdown?

Tilt · #5 10-05-2005, 04:47 PM

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No, he's raising you because he has the flush (or just possibly the straight). It would be silly to raise here without a hand that beats queens up.

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I have beeter than queens up. Could he not bet two pair, or even a pair of aces with a draw here?

kschellenger · #6 10-05-2005, 04:48 PM

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No, he's raising you because he has the flush (or just possibly the straight). It would be silly to raise here without a hand that beats queens up.

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I have beeter than queens up. Could he not bet two pair, or even a pair of aces with a draw here?

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You HAVE queens up.

Tilt · #7 10-05-2005, 04:51 PM

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sure looks like a flush to me. good luck on that redraw [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I mucked my three outer, thanks.

Tilt · #8 10-05-2005, 04:52 PM

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You HAVE queens up.

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Ok, yes, my queens are up, I mean I have better than just a pair of queens.

bigredlemon · #9 10-05-2005, 04:54 PM

queens up = two pair with the higher pair being queens
open queens = having two exposed queens.

It's in the dictionary [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

kschellenger · #10 10-05-2005, 05:02 PM

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sure looks like a flush to me. good luck on that redraw [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I mucked my three outer, thanks.

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You made a mistake. The pot was laying you ~ 8.5:1 odds. (I don't know for sure because you didn't tell us about the structure)
You have 3 outs for a full house.
You have the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] for a flush.
5 outs.
You've seen 23 cards.
29 left
~ 5:1 to make a better hand.
You should have called.