$11's (2 hands) complete from SB & push TT UTG L4

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

Below are 2 hands that I am not sure I played correctly. Please critique...

OK to limp from SB w/ 89s? 2 callers and BB... good odds, bad position... I always get aggressive when I see a draw develop... good push on turn or am I not extracting value?
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: YellowstoneT (1805)
Seat 2: ShutitBeavis (230)
Seat 3: Dr_Jeckyl_00 (560)
Seat 4: arsnl10 (605)
Seat 5: mcaspe1 (1840)
Seat 8: DADDYPOPS (1250)
Seat 10: johnhorv (1710)
Dr_Jeckyl_00 posts small blind (25)
arsnl10 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Dr_Jeckyl_00 [ 8h, 9h ]
mcaspe1: so lucky
mcaspe1 calls (50)
DADDYPOPS folds.
johnhorv folds.
YellowstoneT calls (50)
ShutitBeavis folds.
Dr_Jeckyl_00 calls (25)
DADDYPOPS: HA HA
arsnl10 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8c, Kh, 8d ]
Dr_Jeckyl_00 checks.
arsnl10 checks.
mcaspe1 bets (150)
YellowstoneT folds.
Dr_Jeckyl_00 calls (150)
arsnl10 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3h ]
DADDYPOPS: BEN ON THE OTHER SIDE
Dr_Jeckyl_00 bets (360)
Dr_Jeckyl_00 is all-In.
Results in White
<font color="white"> Villain folded</font>

Pushing TT UTG ok? (had not seen good cards in a while)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: YellowstoneT (1730)
Seat 2: ShutitBeavis (305)
Seat 3: Dr_Jeckyl_00 (860)
Seat 4: arsnl10 (480)
Seat 5: mcaspe1 (1615)
Seat 8: DADDYPOPS (1325)
Seat 10: johnhorv (1685)
YellowstoneT posts small blind (50)
ShutitBeavis posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Dr_Jeckyl_00 [ Ts, Tc ]
ShutitBeavis: damm
mcaspe1: some coming my way
Dr_Jeckyl_00 raises (860) to 860
Dr_Jeckyl_00 is all-In.
Results in White <font color="white">
arsnl10 folds.
DADDYPOPS: LUKY
mcaspe1 folds.
DADDYPOPS folds.
johnhorv folds.
YellowstoneT folds.
ShutitBeavis calls (205)
ShutitBeavis is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $660 with ShutitBeavis
Creating Side Pot 1 with $555 with Dr_Jeckyl_00
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6c, Jh, 4h ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 5s ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 660 | Side Pot 1: 555
Board: [ 6c Jh 4h 6h 5s ]
YellowstoneT balance 1680, lost 50 (folded)
ShutitBeavis balance 660, bet 305, collected 660, net +355 [ Qh 2h ] [ a flush, queen high -- Qh,Jh,6h,4h,2h ]
Dr_Jeckyl_00 balance 555, bet 860, collected 555, lost -305 [ Ts Tc ] [ two pairs, tens and sixes -- Jh,Ts,Tc,6c,6h ]
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Hand 1: I often play hand one the exact same way, although I might bet on the flop. (I dunno if it's mathematically incorrect to limp with 98s i this position, but I do it too).

Hand 2: Easy shove

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

bump

[pokerdirty]

would anyone shove pf on the first one to try and pick up the blinds?

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

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would anyone shove pf on the first one to try and pick up the blinds?

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I think they call that a PVS. That looks like a steal in this situation and might get called... I don't think that I have the stack or the cards to back it up, but that would be a nice 30% increase to my stack if it worked...

[schwza]

i'd fold pre-flop with 98s, but pushing is ok too. i don't like completing. i'd check-call the flop and check the turn too. it's kind of transparent as trips, but i think it's best.

auto-push the TT hand. it'd be better if the BB had a few more chips, but you can't fold TT there 7-handed.

98s for &lt; 5% of your stack and with 7:1 pot odds? If you fold here you are folding major +EV. Pushing is also fine, depending on the table.

Don't worry about the second heart. It's heads-up and there's no reason to think he had two hearts from the flop. Even if he's playing 2 suited he has 2 hearts perhaps slightly more than 10% of the time, and completes the flush 20% of those.

Because of the king on the flop it's viable to lead and hope for a caller if you have a big stack relative to the pot IMO, but you don't, so slowplaying looks good. I'd probably check-call, cr all in.

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

another bump

[playtitleist]

Hand 1: Not sure on the limp. Would have to be read specific, I don't think any option (other than flat raise) can be cut and dried "wrong" move.

I push his flop bet though. 3 reasons:
1) You have a very strong hand
2) Villains are willing to protect their bet before seeing another card (so, I think you will see a call here more often than not). Which is really what you want
3) Things can't get a lot better for you or villain, so waiting for the turn gives villain an oportunity to back out.

2-3 mean you leave chips on the table that could have been yours.

Hand 2:

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(had not seen good cards in a while)

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I'd like to know what weight you put on this and why you included it.

[downtown]

Hand 1: I fold here, but a complete is ok in my book. The problem is when you get a lot of action on a J94 flop when you bet out, or a 824 flop, etc, etc... now you're spewing chips with a marginal hand.

I don't like a (PVS) push because I think the fact that both limping stacks have ~t1800 means they are going to look you up too often to make the move profitable.

Hand 2: Pushing is correct and your only move here.