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dark_horse · #1 09-29-2005, 03:52 AM

coming right up.

dark_horse · #2 09-29-2005, 03:53 AM

Hand 1

Spewing on the turn? I think this is my biggest personal weakness in hold'em. I often get aggressive in marginal spots when I "feel" like I am ahead. Sometimes I'm right, but sometimes I'm very wrong. I won't say what the case is here. This could be a trait that creates champion NL players, but limit losers. No significant read on villian. After 27 hands he is slightly loose.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP raises, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (15 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets, Button folds, Hero raises

dark_horse · #3 09-29-2005, 03:58 AM

Often the fish play their hands this way, and when they donk the turn it could be weird but I've gotten used to it. In this case, I had no idea what to do though. Once both players called my raise (button cold calls, but could be on a flush draw) I couldn't be confident I was ahead. Even if I were, I could be outdrawn.

After 244 hands he is 67.6/7.7/1.54.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: 8 BB

dark_horse · #4 09-29-2005, 04:02 AM

My turn raise was supposed to take care of two things. 1 - Make believe I was a slowplaying my trip aces in case he has me beat without an ace, and 2 - raising for a free showdown. If he 3bets or bets the river I have a decision to make. After only 88 hands, villian is 58/5.7/1.7.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.33 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG calls.

River: (7.66 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7.66 BB

dark_horse · #5 09-29-2005, 04:05 AM

Pretty sure I butchered this one. I definitely should have bet the turn, but was hoping for a "premature sexy." Villian is TAG. Was hoping he'd see my checking the turned 2nd card pairing as weakness and he'd bet so I can raise. Then the river. Villian is 25.4/17.8/2.15.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero calls, CO raises, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB folds, UTG checks, Hero checks, CO bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, CO calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (6.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.16 BB

kidcolin · #6 09-29-2005, 04:09 AM

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Often the fish play their hands this way, and when they donk the turn it could be weird but I've gotten used to it. In this case, I had no idea what to do though. Once both players called my raise (button cold calls, but could be on a flush draw) I couldn't be confident I was ahead. Even if I were, I could be outdrawn.

After 244 hands he is 67.6/7.7/1.54.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: 8 BB

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Good turn fold. I don't know if I like your flop raise yet or not. It's better than calling with people behind you. Folding seems weak, but it might be best since the pot is so protected. Or is this one of the few instances where a "raise for info" is applicable?

Reads on Button would be nice.

kidcolin · #7 09-29-2005, 04:11 AM

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Pretty sure I butchered this one. I definitely should have bet the turn, but was hoping for a "premature sexy." Villian is TAG. Was hoping he'd see my checking the turned 2nd card pairing as weakness and he'd bet so I can raise. Then the river. Villian is 25.4/17.8/2.15.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero calls, CO raises, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB folds, UTG checks, Hero checks, CO bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, CO calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (6.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.16 BB

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Very butchered. Lead the flop. CO raising is a good thing. Then either 3-bet or turn check-raise. The way you played it, you have to lead the turn. It's criminal not to. It'll get checked so often by KK, QQ, TT, etc.

dark_horse · #8 09-29-2005, 04:12 AM

Another fun hand. Very confusing. CO is extremely loose. I could bet, but if either of my remaining opponents check-raise I have a nasty decision to make. OTOH, if I do check, I'm giving a free card on this nasty board. Yuck. Then of course the flush comes on the river, and I feel compelled to bet when no one bets the river for me. I guess the best play would have been to bet the turn and fold to a c/r. But if I were on a flushdraw and knew my player, I might make a bluff here with the c/r.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG folds, CO calls.

Turn: (5.66 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

River: (5.66 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets, BB folds, CO calls.

Final Pot: 7.66 BB

kidcolin · #9 09-29-2005, 04:13 AM

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Hand 1

Spewing on the turn? I think this is my biggest personal weakness in hold'em. I often get aggressive in marginal spots when I "feel" like I am ahead. Sometimes I'm right, but sometimes I'm very wrong. I won't say what the case is here. This could be a trait that creates champion NL players, but limit losers. No significant read on villian. After 27 hands he is slightly loose.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP raises, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (15 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets, Button folds, Hero raises

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I vote spew. Even if you're ahead river is going to be tricky OOP. I don't know if you should call down or fold.

Drontier · #10 09-29-2005, 04:31 AM

this is fine