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Old 09-29-2005, 08:37 AM
phillydilly phillydilly is offline
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Default TP w/ flush draw turns a straight draw

villain is 54/8/5.5 @ 28 hands
thoughts:
in general i'm not doing well semi bluffing, so i've cut way down. The way hes betting, it doesn't feel like a flush draw, but a made hand, which is why i checked behind on the river, felt like he was inducing a bluff, and i did have decent showdown value.

any comments on this hand

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Button ($54.21)
SB ($24.75)
BB ($19.97)
UTG ($19.96)
Hero ($33.45)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $1</font>, Hero calls $1, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($3.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3.

River: ($9.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $9.25
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Old 09-29-2005, 08:58 AM
Rocco Rocco is offline
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Default Re: TP w/ flush draw turns a straight draw

I'd raise the flop (to $3) and make him pay for possible draws...
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Old 09-29-2005, 08:59 AM
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Default Re: TP w/ flush draw turns a straight draw

Raise the flop! You have top pair and a flush draw, and this guy is aggressive.
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Old 09-29-2005, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: TP w/ flush draw turns a straight draw

i think a river raise is warranted here as well.
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Old 09-29-2005, 10:15 AM
Rockatansky Rockatansky is offline
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Default Re: TP w/ flush draw turns a straight draw

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i think a river raise is warranted here as well.

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What worse hands will call the river bet? I could see a worse Queen maybe folding to the river bet, but like OP said, his hand definitely has showdown value here.
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Old 09-29-2005, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: TP w/ flush draw turns a straight draw

Raise the flop.
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Old 09-29-2005, 12:54 PM
Sifmole Sifmole is offline
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Default Re: TP w/ flush draw turns a straight draw

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i think a river raise is warranted here as well.

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What worse hands will call the river bet? I could see a worse Queen maybe folding to the river bet, but like OP said, his hand definitely has showdown value here.

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Depends on the river bet:

Full-pot: probably not called by a reasonable player
1/2 pot: probably only called about 30% of the time with a weak Q or an A8 or some such.
1/3 pot: probaby called about 70% unless he was totally bluffing.

The main problem with the smaller bets is that you risk a C/R and then a decision. If the player has not shown themselves to be tricky I'd probably throw out a $3 bet for value.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:17 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Re: TP w/ flush draw turns a straight draw

This isn't a semi-bluff hand, it's a powerhouse. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] You got to raise that flop. Raise to about $4, bet the turn if checked to, and Then you can probably check behind the river if you want to.
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Old 09-29-2005, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: TP w/ flush draw turns a straight draw

you've gotta raise the flop....as played at least raise the turn.
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