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Old 09-22-2005, 01:20 PM
joker122 joker122 is offline
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Default how the [censored] do i play this hand?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>,
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Old 09-22-2005, 01:25 PM
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middle pair didn't make the set and 3 suited board = fold
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Old 09-22-2005, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: how the [censored] do i play this hand?

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middle pair didn't make the set and 3 suited board = fold

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Is it really that simple? He PFRed...you put MP on an 8 or 2 clubs?

I dont really know the right play, but i think a bet/fold on the flop is too simple...
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Old 09-22-2005, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: how the [censored] do i play this hand?

I call all the way down unless an Ace hits and no club hits in which case I fold on the river. Folding this flop would be criminal in my opinion.

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Old 09-22-2005, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: how the [censored] do i play this hand?

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middle pair didn't make the set and 3 suited board = fold

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Is it really that simple? He PFRed...you put MP on an 8 or 2 clubs?

I dont really know the right play, but i think a bet/fold on the flop is too simple...

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I see what you're saying about PFR but think of the range he is likely up against AK/AQ/AJ (6 outs), pocket pairs 77-AA, KQ (6 outs). Doens't look promosing in my opinion. If turn is a blank, hero might have to bet again with middle pair. Could be costly.
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Old 09-22-2005, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: how the [censored] do i play this hand?

Either reraise and lead or call and lead a non-club turn. He's more likely to have overcards with nut or second nut club than an overpair. If you get raised on the turn, play good poker and make a decision.

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Old 09-22-2005, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: how the [censored] do i play this hand?

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middle pair didn't make the set and 3 suited board = fold

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Is it really that simple? He PFRed...you put MP on an 8 or 2 clubs?

I dont really know the right play, but i think a bet/fold on the flop is too simple...

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I see what you're saying about PFR but think of the range he is likely up against AK/AQ/AJ (6 outs), pocket pairs 77-AA, KQ (6 outs). Doens't look promosing in my opinion. If turn is a blank, hero might have to bet again with middle pair. Could be costly.

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are you kidding? a co open raise and you're ready to restrict his hands to that small of a range?
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Old 09-22-2005, 01:59 PM
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Either reraise and lead or call and lead a non-club turn. He's more likely to have overcards with nut or second nut club than an overpair. If you get raised on the turn, play good poker and make a decision.


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Old 09-22-2005, 02:03 PM
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- he might not have hit
- you have 2nd highest pair headsup. While higher cards will likely come, making your pair worse, he still might miss.
- you have a club, which he might not.


I think this is a call. Watch out for aces that come though.
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Old 09-22-2005, 05:02 PM
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folding here would be absolutely horrible.
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