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10/20 UTG raises...folded to you in the BB with 22
Villain just sat down so no reads.
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (4.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls. Turn: (4.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls. River: (6.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, UTG checks. Final Pot: 6.25 BB I lose a lot of money in these situations when I'm beat. However, I can't convince myself to fold preflop with a pair and once the flop texture looks this good I just get on with the hand. If he 3-bets the flop I call and check/fold the turn UI. I probably call down if raised on the turn. I chek/call the river a lot cause I start to get scared after they call my flop and turn bets. Agaisnt someone really weak I will often value-bet but with a K and a third club I check/call. Do these standards seem reasonable? |
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Re: 10/20 UTG raises...folded to you in the BB with 22
I'm not a huge fan of this because if he's fairly tight and raising UTG you're a big dog to his range and if he's LAGy and raising UTG you're going to have a hard time continuing against his constant betting/raising with just a pair of 2s. I think you probably have implied odds even HU for a set but it's a tough road postflop if your opponent is aggrressive.
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Re: 10/20 UTG raises...folded to you in the BB with 22
I think fold preflop is ok.
Also I think if you want to steal on this board you have to CR the turn, you will be 3-bet by overcards, middle pairs tooo often and then fold the turn UI when you have a better chance to take it on the turn. |
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Re: 10/20 UTG raises...folded to you in the BB with 22
Nah, I'm not really a big fan of this, without any sort of read, against an UTG raiser. Also, on the river I like bet/fold, check/fold, and check/call, in order of preference. But of course, with no reads, I don't really think which line you take makes much difference.
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Re: 10/20 UTG raises...folded to you in the BB with 22
So are you advocating folding preflop? If you did fold preflop what is your cutoff? 55? 77?
Given that I chose not to fold...What kind of better flop could I look for? |
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Re: 10/20 UTG raises...folded to you in the BB with 22
bump...give me your minimum pocket pair you "defend" with.
I another thread rory just said hes not a fan of 22 and 33--implying he feel comfortable with 44? What about the rest of you? |
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Re: 10/20 UTG raises...folded to you in the BB with 22
I meant 22 or 33 to any non-SB raise. Even on a button steal, I fold them unless the button has some serious weaknesses in his postflop play.
So assuming a pretty good playing player raising from the button, I dump those little pairs. A pretty good player raising from UTG, I dump up to 66. 77 I usually call, though. 66 I call maybe half the time and drop the rest. If the guy is really passive or really aggressive postflop (so I can either be aggressive and fold if played back at easily or I can just check-call and let him bet my hand for me), then I will defend with the smaller pairs. I figure his postflop play is so bad that I have easy tactics at my disposal that I can use to minimize my positional disadvantage. If the guy plays good postflop and is capable of being tricky and what not, then those hands go in the muck. I suck really bad at this game, though. Real bad. |
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Re: 10/20 UTG raises...folded to you in the BB with 22
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Also I think if you want to steal on this board you have to CR the turn [/ QUOTE ] You checkraises 5th pair against UTGraise if he bets flop and turn? It looks a bit 2 aggressive, doesnt it? |
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