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Old 09-28-2005, 09:01 AM
mr_perry84 mr_perry84 is offline
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Default Hit trips but not liking it

SB = LAP, UTG = LPP

Normally when someone checks, 3 bets it's easy to assume they've made the set or in this case fh. I know this so was i correct in either drawing to the ace, or calling down incase im playing against another 4 with a worse kicker plus a bad player overplaying a big pocket pair?


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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (12.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB
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Old 09-28-2005, 09:08 AM
jrz1972 jrz1972 is offline
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Default Re: Hit trips but not liking it

I stick in one more raise on the turn. You're often just up against the case 4 and an overplayed 7 or perhaps an overpair. If you get 3-bet on the turn it's time to worry about 77.
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Old 09-28-2005, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: Hit trips but not liking it

I think I could get one more raise in on the turn, you may be dealing with an overpair, or a 7 that your opponent(s) want to eliminate players with. Call down to any further aggression.
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Old 09-28-2005, 09:14 AM
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Default Re: Hit trips but not liking it

I think this is ok. I might raise once more on the turn.
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Old 09-28-2005, 09:21 AM
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Default Re: Hit trips but not liking it

74 is not even worth considering. UTG needs exactly 77 to be ahead of you. If he has it you are drawing to one out.

Notice the board also has a possible OESD and flush draw with the str8 draw hitting on the turn.

Your only other option is to raise the turn, but you don't really want to fold to a 3-bet do you?
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Old 09-28-2005, 09:33 AM
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Default Re: Hit trips but not liking it

i'm putting in another raise on the turn. our play could easily look like a flush draw raise or an overcard bluff. if our kicker was crappier, i'd just call down as i seem to constantly run into someone having the case 4 with a better kicker. if someone has 56 and playing the flop like this: well played, but at this point 77 is the ONLY reasonable hand we're losing to.
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Old 09-28-2005, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: Hit trips but not liking it

you will see a 4 with a weaker kicker a fair amount here. I raise the turn.
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Old 09-28-2005, 11:05 AM
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I raise all the way here. You're worrying about monsters IMO.
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Old 09-28-2005, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: Hit trips but not liking it

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I raise all the way here. You're worrying about monsters IMO.

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I agree that our hand is strong, but a check/3-bet and a bet/cap have to send off some kind of warning bells that we are at least against another 4. At what point do you start worrying about the fact that you might be behind here?
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Old 09-28-2005, 11:19 AM
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I agree, but even against another 4 we have a better kicker.

I see your point but think I would still play this agressively.
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