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Is this fold ever profitable at the low limits?
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. 1 fold</font>, MP calls, 1 fold</font>, Button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, MP calls. Flop: (8 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)</font> SB bets</font>, Hero raises</font>, MP folds, Button calls, SB calls. Turn: (7 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls. River: (10 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)</font> SB checks, Hero bets</font>, Button raises</font>, SB folds, Hero folds. Final Pot: 13 BB I had only been at the table for a couple orbits. Normally, I would check, call this river but I really want to tweak those extra leaks so I decided to go with the bet/fold rather than check/call or bet/call (I normally don't ever fold this river in such a large pot). However, with only a few hands on the villian in PT, I made this fold because they seemed solid, at least that is what I got from this previous hand: Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1. Hero calls, 1 fold</font>, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, [color=#CC3333]SB raises</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls. Flop: (10 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)</font> SB bets</font>, BB folds, Hero folds, CO calls, Button folds. Turn: (6 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)</font> SB bets</font>, CO raises</font>, SB calls. River: (10 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)</font> SB bets</font>, CO calls. Final Pot: 12 BB At these limits, is my play of folding a mediocre hand in a 13BB pot for one bet in the first hand ever really profitable at these limits? P.S. I am new to using the converter, but can anyone tell me how to get rid of [color=#CC3333]? Someone told me to use a text editor to change all the = signs to : If this is true, can you also recommend a good text editor to use [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: Is this fold ever profitable at the low limits?
In hand #1, unless you have a very good read, don't bet the river unless you're willing to call a raise. Check-calling is ok I think because the river just completed 3 different draws: the gutshot, the flush, and any donk who was hoping to spike a single pair.
Hand #2 is standard. |
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Re: Is this fold ever profitable at the low limits?
I really don't like a bet in the first hand. While you might lose the occasional value bet, check/calling will probably be made up by the times you catch him bluffing at the ace, and you don't expose yourself to a raise.
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Re: Is this fold ever profitable at the low limits?
Oh, I forgot to post the result for hand two. Villian had AA. I wasn't worried about the way I played it; I was just showing the hand as one of the reasons why I got the vibe they were solid.
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Re: Is this fold ever profitable at the low limits?
I hate the limp in hand #2 6-handed. I think fold>raise>call.
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Re: Is this fold ever profitable at the low limits?
I'm suprised by two posters saying not to bet the river in hand one -
I'm step in the minority and say a bet fold on the river is fine. Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] |
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Re: Is this fold ever profitable at the low limits?
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I hate the limp in hand #2 6-handed. I think fold>raise>call. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks for bringing this up because I do tend to have trouble with low pairs from EP and it is something I didn't notice before. I don't like raising mediocre hands (if you can even call a small pair mediocre) UTG, but my previous opinion was that folding a pair at a loose table, even shorthanded, is giving up too much. As of now, the only pairs I will fold UTG are dueces/treys and only if the table is particularly tight and/or aggressive. |
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Re: Is this fold ever profitable at the low limits?
In hand no. 1 if you have good reads that raiser is solid player who rarely bluffs, you can fold. Anyhow you must have reads.
I do not see you winning this hand even 5 % of the time if Button is playing solid poker. |
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Re: Is this fold ever profitable at the low limits?
i'm relatively new to 6-max, so forgive for the preflop question:
are both these preflop plays standard? calling a raise with KTo even in BB in a protected pot and limping UTG with 44? just wondering because i usually fold these, but maybe i should begin to loosen up [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] |
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Re: Is this fold ever profitable at the low limits?
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Is this fold ever profitable at the low limits? [/ QUOTE ] Making +EV folds is dificult at any level. |
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