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Old 09-14-2005, 02:33 AM
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Pokerroom 100nl full ring

Villain is unknown, just sat down an orbit ago, had a little less than $100, and hasn't done anything much. SB has around $60, somewhat loose.

I have $140, playing TAG

preflop:
I raise to 4 UTG+1, MP calls, SB calls, BB (Villain) reraises to 15. I call, MP folds, SB calls.

flop:
245, 2 clubs, pot is around 50

SB checks, Villain bets 50, I vomit and fold, SB folds

I had lost a ton in the past 2 weeks with 4 KK vs AA.
Flame on.
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Old 09-14-2005, 02:36 AM
Macquarie Macquarie is offline
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Default Re: First post, i am awful

Er, did you have KK here then?
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Old 09-14-2005, 02:40 AM
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oops, im new to this, i have black KK
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Old 09-14-2005, 02:45 AM
Macquarie Macquarie is offline
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You can't fold to this bet. Reraiser is bound to bet out on virtually any flop regardless of his holdings, and flops don't get any much safer for your hand than this. You must push here surely.
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Old 09-14-2005, 02:52 AM
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KK will run into AA ...3.4% of the time, I think.

I'd have to push this.
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Old 09-14-2005, 02:59 AM
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thanks for the replies. Yeah, up til now, there was no way i was ever folding to a bet on a board like this. I guess my recent string of unlucky KK vs AA beats caused me to fold here. But I've been having a lot more trouble recently when my KK gets reraised preflop. I felt lost on this hand and couldn't figure out an easier way to play it. If I 3-bet preflop, I pretty much have to call anything afterwards. Is it okay to get stacked everytime against an unknown if has AA?
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Old 09-14-2005, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: First post, i am awful

I think KK is against AA in this kind of situation much more frequently than 3,4%.

I don't know about Poker rooms games, but in Party players are rarely reraising UTG raiser without a specific reason (against a maniac) with anything less than QQ. Villains most likely hands are AA, KK, AK, QQ total number of combinations of these hands when one KK is out is 21 [AA (6), KK (1), QQ (6), AK (8)].

Only hand that you are losing to on that flop is AA which you will see approximately 6/21 (28.6%) of times.
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