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Old 08-31-2005, 02:16 PM
bicyclekick bicyclekick is offline
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Default Hand 3

Button is a very agro player. 36/28/4.5 through 38 hands. we haven't palyed any big pots like this yet though.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

BB ($1000)
UTG ($1028)
MP ($2337.25)
Hero ($1111)
Button ($1623)
SB ($616.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
UTG calls $10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $55</font>, Button calls $55, SB (poster) calls $50, BB calls $45, UTG calls $45.

Flop: ($275) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $125</font>, Button calls $125, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: ($525) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $400</font>, Hero calls $400.

River: ($1325) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks
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Old 08-31-2005, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: Hand 3

Preflop is perfect.

Bet at least $225 on the flop.

Keep the lead on the turn and fire again until you have reason to believe you're behind.

As you played it I'd probably just close my eyes and stick the rest in on the turn.
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Old 08-31-2005, 02:28 PM
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With the limited insight, I think your check on the turn induced the desired (?!? - supposing he's demonstrated a tendency to do this) bluff, because you would have likely been raised on the flop if he had more than a draw. Unless you have reason to believe he actually had Q9 or QQ, I would have pushed following his bet on the turn.
That said, I don't like the check on the turn. You're far less likely to be bluff-raised on the turn, even by a super LAG, so I would bet anywhere from 40-70% pot on the turn.
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Old 08-31-2005, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Hand 3

with his immediate flat call on the flop and such a dry board i would not be surprised to see a set from button here at showdown.

in a multiway pot when someone flops a lock on the hand with position they are going to try to trap as many people in as possible.

that said, with the way you played the hand his range is much wider.

as yeti said, bet a lot more on the flop. that is so weak someone could either over-value a hand like 1010 thinking you whiffed on the flop. or they could have air and just think they can easily take it away on turn or river. or a hand like J10ss that was gutted on the flop and picked up the other end draw and the flush draw on the turn.

again, 200-250 on the flop.
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Old 08-31-2005, 02:39 PM
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I really like checkraising allin on the turn if you're going to put more money in the pot.
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Old 08-31-2005, 02:42 PM
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if his flop bet convinces his opponent to overvalue TT or take a shot with air why is that a bad thing?
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Old 08-31-2005, 02:48 PM
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if his flop bet convinces his opponent to overvalue TT or take a shot with air why is that a bad thing?

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Just seems like it's inviting people to peel and make the hand infinitely harder to play.
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Old 08-31-2005, 02:50 PM
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i think you played it ok except after he bets on the turn, if you like your hand enough to call i think you should push. with more money in play a call on the turn is reasonable but as it is your committed to the hand after your call, make him commit his money too. i dont think your call is particularly likely to induce more mistakes from him.
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Old 08-31-2005, 02:56 PM
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if he had bet the pot on the flop and been called what would your plan have been?
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Old 08-31-2005, 03:00 PM
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My standard would be to lead again and fold to a raise. Obviously this can change to check-raise, bet-call, depending on other stuff.

I'm aware that the pot is getting big and you don't have that much behind but at least you now have reduced his range somewhat.
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