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Old 08-29-2005, 06:21 PM
PSW PSW is offline
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Default KK hand, missing a raise?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

second orbit so reads are nil, but it was a very high pot average table...

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.66 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Hit me. Should have raised this for value and protection, yes?

River: (10.66 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 12.66 BB
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Old 08-29-2005, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: KK hand, missing a raise?

I'll often 3-bet the flop as UTG+2 will often CR this flop with a worse hand. Call down if cap.
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:14 PM
thirddan thirddan is offline
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Default Re: KK hand, missing a raise?

3bet the flop or raise the turn, you left money on the table here...
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: KK hand, missing a raise?

I'm more apt to jam the flop again, and get another raise the turn as well rather than slow down immediately to a little aggression.

Get in there and fight for your pots.

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Old 08-29-2005, 08:09 PM
sy_or_bust sy_or_bust is offline
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Default Re: KK hand, missing a raise?

I like raising the turn here. This action usually betrays Villain's hand, more or less - AQ/KQ. BB may be truly awful, but more likely he has some outs w/ JT, etc., and can be raised out on the turn at a small price, assuming UTG+2 will always call down from here.

If you 3-bet the flop, you take the lead and probably keep BB also. I like this line more when the board is less drawy and the potential of being behind is greater.
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Old 08-29-2005, 09:32 PM
silkyslim silkyslim is offline
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Default Re: KK hand, missing a raise?

i 3-bet flop and lead turn. villian has a queen!!!! and you might get BB to fold. if he caps, id want to get to showdown fo cheap. The way you played the flop, I would def raise the turn. you had the right idea man, now press the button
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: KK hand, missing a raise?

Raise the flop. And raise the turn if you get the chance. No reason not to with the best hand. Realistically you're only behind TT &amp; QQ on the flop, in terms of the range of hands he's going to raise PF with and not cap your 3-bet.
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Old 08-30-2005, 01:58 AM
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Default Re: KK hand, missing a raise?

I will always raise the flop. Most of the time, the rest of the hand plays differently then.
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