Push the caller??? (PS $25K hand)

NorthernGuy · #1 08-27-2005, 01:39 AM

This was a crucial hand in tonight's PS 25K rebuy.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (8 handed) converter

MP2 (t32744)
CO (t104262)
Hero (t89922)
SB (t32830)
BB (t38465)
UTG (t57678)
UTG+1 (t106968)
MP1 (t24320)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t2000, 2 folds, CO raises to t6000, Hero calls t6000, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls t4000.

Flop: (t18700) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 bets t2000, CO calls t2000, Hero raises to t10000, UTG+1 calls t8000, CO calls t8000.

Turn: (t48700) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero ???,

LethalRose · #2 08-27-2005, 01:42 AM

I push the turn, prolly raise 4k more on the flop.

Pasterbator · #3 08-27-2005, 01:42 AM

As someone once stated "If a reraise is gonna make you puke, take the free card."

NorthernGuy · #4 08-27-2005, 02:16 AM

I raised his 2K to 10K on the flop... and you're saying I should raise to 14K??? Where's the reasoning in that?

Macdaddy Warsaw · #5 08-27-2005, 03:46 AM

You have TPTK and a redraw to the nuts, bet 35-40k here and call any re-raises. Call/push any river.

TomHimself · #6 08-27-2005, 03:51 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I raised his 2K to 10K on the flop... and you're saying I should raise to 14K??? Where's the reasoning in that?

[/ QUOTE ]so you can push the turn

pokerponcho · #7 08-27-2005, 04:52 AM

I think a bet is in order with top pair top kicker. You haven't really described the opponents so who knows what they are overcalling with. You should at least have that kind of information by this stage.

If you think the cut-off has aces or kings or a set check. Otherwise, bet T35000 and if you get shoved in make a decision, likely call with the draw to the nuts.

The board is so non-threating. Against two sophisticated opponents, you are quite possibly beaten. But it's the internet and one of them is probably a total fish fortunately. I'd say you are in the lead so bet T37000 into the T51000 pot.

Bottom line, don't even think about making a decision here without thinking about your opponents play/style.

It's impossible to know what to do, but I say bet.

pokerponcho

caseycjc · #8 08-27-2005, 08:38 AM

I,m new here and will introduce myself shortly. Getting right to the hand, I don't like your preflop play. Without defining your hand you are second guessing now. I would have went over the top, as oppposed to smooth calling. A pot size raise preflop will either get rid of the limper or not but at least you know where youre at. Now you have a delemna, who's sandbagging, if I raise here is someone putting me to the test, etc etc. Of course you always have to think that way but I really think if you had charged the limper and the raiser you would be in much better shape now to know what to do. Hopefully heads up with the other raiser. So now what? You have to bet here, sure you have lots of outs but a free card here might hurt too. I make a pot size bet here, if someone plays back at you you'll have to decide from there.