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Old 08-26-2005, 04:27 AM
Moozh Moozh is offline
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Default Ack, Turn Blows Up In My Face

Small Blind is tight/weak before the flop, but knows how to raise a bit post flop (20/2/1.5).

UTG seems to be loose passive, but has just arrived at the table recently.

I have very few hands on both.

Things were going along smoothly and then the turn just explodes in my face. I was completely lost. I figured I might get some more thoughtful answers if I do this in steps, so what do I do when it's two back to me on the turn?

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (7 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero...
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Old 08-26-2005, 04:32 AM
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Default Re: Ack, Turn Blows Up In My Face

3-bet.
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Old 08-26-2005, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: Ack, Turn Blows Up In My Face

AK, KK, AQ, AJ, A3s/o, 33... which exactly of these are you worried about them having? I expect SB to have many suited aces in this position, alot of which I beat. I dont put either of them on 33 or A3o by default, nor do I put anyone on KK unless UTG has been observed LRR'ing KK before. I'd make this one read dependant insofar as calling down/3Betting. Typicall I'm inclined to 3B(given his AGF).

You may be facing SB betting out with a king thinking you were autobetting and trying to see where he is... UTG is raising here with any old limped Ace...

just my thoughts... perhaps someone with a better winrate can make a better decision... I assume some might think SB might be donking, or UTG raising with something like KQs? So I'm inclined to 3B to charge some retarded FD also...
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Old 08-26-2005, 04:52 AM
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Default Re: Ack, Turn Blows Up In My Face

I would cold call sometimes to get the SB to overcall and then raise a riverbet from UTG. Or just 3 bet a be straightforward about it. Thats fine 2.
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Old 08-26-2005, 05:04 AM
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Default Re: Ack, Turn Blows Up In My Face

I can't laydown trip aces on that turn.
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Old 08-26-2005, 11:37 AM
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Raise.
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Old 08-26-2005, 11:49 AM
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Just calling the turn and then raising the river is FAR better than 3 betting the turn.
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:09 PM
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Just calling the turn and then raising the river is FAR better than 3 betting the turn.

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Why?
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:11 PM
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Just calling the turn and then raising the river is FAR better than 3 betting the turn.

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Not if SB is donk betting his flush draw/gut shot.
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:44 PM
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Not if SB is donk betting his flush draw/gut shot.

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That's right, but do you think that's what he's doing? It's much more likely he has a K.
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