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Old 08-25-2005, 01:37 PM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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Default this one felt right? was it? QTo bb against preflop poster

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $15.
UTG calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO (poster) raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8.66 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG folds, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 folds, CO calls.

Turn: (6.33 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (12.33 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.33 BB
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:46 PM
highlife highlife is offline
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Default Re: this one felt right? was it? QTo bb against preflop poster

i can't figure out why that flop play is correct. i fold obviously.

other than that looks fine.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:48 PM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
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Default Re: this one felt right? was it? QTo bb against preflop poster

you are a total savage.
turn/river look good, preflop/flop makes me nervous.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: this one felt right? was it? QTo bb against preflop poster

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you are a total savage.
turn/river look good, preflop/flop makes me nervous.

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pre-flop?
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: this one felt right? was it? QTo bb against preflop poster

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you are a total savage.
turn/river look good, preflop/flop makes me nervous.

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pre-flop?

[/ QUOTE ]id fold.
QTo=not good limit texas holdem hand.
UTG=not good limit texas holdem position.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:55 PM
Rick Nebiolo Rick Nebiolo is offline
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Default Re: this one felt right? was it? QTo bb against preflop poster

It's usually insane not to fold on the flop.

~ Rick
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: this one felt right? was it? QTo bb against preflop poster

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you are a total savage.
turn/river look good, preflop/flop makes me nervous.

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pre-flop?

[/ QUOTE ]id fold.
QTo=not good limit texas holdem hand.
UTG=not good limit texas holdem position.

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Is folding QTo in the BB for 1 bet standard? I never even consider making this fold with the poster raising. If it was rock of gibraltar UTG raise, sure.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:01 PM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
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Default Re: this one felt right? was it? QTo bb against preflop poster

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you are a total savage.
turn/river look good, preflop/flop makes me nervous.

[/ QUOTE ]

pre-flop?

[/ QUOTE ]id fold.
QTo=not good limit texas holdem hand.
UTG=not good limit texas holdem position.

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Is folding QTo in the BB for 1 bet standard? I never even consider making this fold with the poster raising. If it was rock of gibraltar UTG raise, sure.

[/ QUOTE ]well, it sure as hell doesnt seem like slamdunk either way, so i wouldnt sweat it...
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:04 PM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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Default what i was thinking on the flop

"i can't figure out why that flop play is correct. i fold obviously."

poster doesnt need to have a hand, they seem to raise all the time when they post even when there's limpers. i can c/r and get the field out and have a shot at a pot that's getting pretty big. also clean up outs in case i need my overcards, backdoor flush.

so no it's not obviously a fold. that doesnt mean i played it the best way, but there are good reasons to make the play i did.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:05 PM
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you are a total savage.
turn/river look good, preflop/flop makes me nervous.

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pre-flop?

[/ QUOTE ]FWIW, when i play QT OOP against a large field the following usually happens...
i flop top pair and end up putting in the fourth or fifth bet on the flop... then i bet the turn and river and some guy calls me down and shows me the best hand... after that i curse under my breath.
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