Player tells me to check it down, I am confused....

[9cao]

5-max game with 5/10 blinds. I am on the button with about $1700 and Villain has about the same in the CO. I haven't been at the table very long and don't recognize any names.

Villain makes it $30 and I call with J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], and shortstack BB calls. Pot is $90.

Flop comes 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. BB moves all-in for $70, Villain calls, and I call. Pot is $300.

Turn is J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO checks. Now I am thinking I am probably ahead of BB and since CO has not protected the pot he must not have a big hand. If I get called I can also have as many as 20 outs.

So just as I am about to bet Villain types "Just check it down." Now ignoring the collusion aspects of this, in my experience it usually means that the person has a made, but not monster hand. What is your move?

[Allinlife]

eaasy bet 2/3 it will increase your chance to win the pot with 3rd player allin

[tdarko]

i bet.

if he has an overpair or a hand like AJ why would he want to just "check it down" and give his opponent a chance with later streets and a connected board?

[cero_z]

Hi tdarko (and Allinlife and 9cao),

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i bet.

if he has an overpair or a hand like AJ why would he want to just "check it down" and give his opponent a chance with later streets and a connected board?

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You guys are really ready to accept that he does want you to check? I doubt it. I think he's trying to lure a bet. You don't want to bet this one, with a mediocre hand now, but potential for a lock. What a shame if you bet and got blown off your hand.

[fimbulwinter]

fim

[Leptyne]

So you think the CO is giving you advice that's in your best interest? When did you start listening to the enemy?

Since you have nothing except a beautiful draw take the free card.

[9cao]

At that point in the hand I think there are three scenarios that make sense:

1) Villain badly played an overpair or has AJ.

I can't see him folding in this scenario but upside is if I do bet and he calls, I can hit one my my 17-20 outs and win a big pot on the river, or just check behind my top-pair if I miss. Downside is that if he checkraises me, I can't see myself folding here.

2) Villain has a drawing hand (AK maybe) and is trying to get to river cheap.

I can easily price out AK or AQ (4 - 6 outs), but I don't think I will get bigger flush draw out and could make for messy river. I also can't protect the current pot against shortstack who could be ahead and at the very least has outs.

3) Villain has a big hand and is trying to induce a bet.

I can't see him having a straight here and this would have been a very terrible way to play a set. In the small likely hood of this I still have 14 outs against any hand.

I am still confused.......

[KCFire105]

rolla freebie off and bust his over pair with your flush, but watch for the four flush on the river making him good.

[Entity]

Does anyone consider reraising the flop? I check the turn.

Rob

[Big_Jim]

I re-raise flop. Check the turn.