my LAG hand from yesterday

mgsimpleton · #1 08-24-2005, 05:31 PM

Hero is MP with 2200 and 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], villain covers.

Two limpers, Villain makes it 100, hero calls, everyone else folds.

Flop (250): 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Villain bets 150, hero calls.

Turn (550): A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villain checks, hero checks.

River (550): A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Villain bets 400, hero moves all in for 1550 more.

Standard?

Big_Jim · #2 08-24-2005, 05:35 PM

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Looks good.

aggie · #3 08-24-2005, 05:37 PM

I like betting the turn much better. The A is the perfect bluff card and kills many of villians holdings. At a minimum, you'll find out where you are at. What hand are you trying to represent when you make that bet on the river? A made full house i assume....Will villian give you that much credit?

mgsimpleton · #4 08-24-2005, 05:39 PM

A scared me a little didn't think he'd let it go when he hit it, but when A pairs in trips it is very unlikely he has quads and my line looks exactly like slowplayed set trying to get a call from trips.

also i think bluffing the A is not smart. i'm not calling on that flop with just AK and then betting it on still drawless turn board when i hit... i was calling with 77 because i thought it was best, not looking to eventually bluff KK out of a pot... i thought he hit the A and i didn't want to try to get him off it right there, i was going to give up on the hand until the river hit.

aggie · #5 08-24-2005, 05:49 PM

I understand you're line looks like a slowplayed set....But do you really think villian is laying down 3 A's?....I don't play that game so i'm not sure but my instinct tells me the only hands this bet is effective against are pairs bigger than yours (like KK)....

AZK · #6 08-24-2005, 05:50 PM

If you bet the turn you can't steal on the river?

Allinlife · #7 08-24-2005, 05:52 PM

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I understand you're line looks like a slowplayed set....But do you really think villian is laying down 3

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her goal isn't to induce a big lay of Ax here, because river bet doesn't look like the kind of bet someone would make here with Ax, so basically she's trying to induce a laydown of likely overpairs between 99~KK.

i like

mgsimpleton · #8 08-24-2005, 05:58 PM

hm... to be honest, i thought the line looked a lot like slowplayed set, i would often check a set behind in that spot on turn if i sensed weakness from villain.

the fold from pairs between 8 and A was a given, i was actually trying to induce a fold from an A, is that too optimistic? the opponent had a large stack, so if i had any read, it's that he might be decent, just from that one factor (which is obviously a very questionable "read")

fwiw, this is exactly how i might play a set if i chose not to bet turn, which i wouldnt if i sensed weakness, and the river A makes the overbet all in perfect to get calls from trips from bad players, so if this player can think, you don't think he lays down an A?

Allinlife · #9 08-24-2005, 06:02 PM

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you don't think he lays down an A?

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against typical party donks..looks highy unlikely.

against regulars with more dicipline.. maybe.

would you fold AK/AQ in that spot your self?

mgsimpleton · #10 08-24-2005, 06:03 PM

ya i would fold. what does AK/AQ beat besides a bluff? and how likely is a bluff given the flop?