My first losing session

[BillsChips]

I just had my first losing session and I feel so violated [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

1/2 NL on a casino boat..completely cold for the whole three hours. Had exactly 3 playable hands, misplayed one that I could have won, and lost big with the other two. Wild table: whenever I wanted to limp with small suited connectors, someone would raise $50 preflop. I wouldn't have hit any of them even if I had called. How unusual is it to not win a single hand in a three hour session?

Note: Some of the players would play nearly any two cards, so you really couldn't limit the range of possible hands very much.

Misplayed hand:
I have TJs in middle position. 5 limp to see the flop. The flop is T K K. Checked to me, I should have bet but I was sure someone had a King and I would practically be drawing dead. If another 10 hit, it would give someone a bigger boat. I checked. The next player raised all-in ($150), two called, and I folded. A rag falls on the turn and a 10 on the river. Nobody had the King.

Another losing hand:
AQs UTG. I raise to $20, many callers. Flop is Ace Jack rag. I bet $30, three callers. Turn = rag, River= rag. I continue to lead and bet $50. Two callers for the showdown and I lose to Ace King.

Bad hand of the night:
Pocket tens in middle position. Early position raises to $15, I call, 5 to see the flop. Flop is 2 2 8. Checked to me I raise $30 - two callers. Turn is another 2. I'm thinking that one of the two callers has an 8 and the other has two overcards, so I go all-in ($250) to protect my deuces full of tens. Both call. River is a rag. Showdown - old man who raised preflop had pocket queens.

Comments/suggestion welcome.

[MyMindIsGoing]

You raised to 10 times the BB UTG with AQs? Also if it is checked you, you cannot raise. I think you misplayed all hands. First hand was bad on the flop, I would bet and see what happened. Second hand bad on all streets. And third hand: too small bet on flop and then bad all in.

And I think this is more appropiate in the small stakes part of pot/no limit.

[BillsChips]

"You raised to 10 times the BB UTG with AQs? Also if it is checked you, you cannot raise."

At this table, $20 was basically a minimum bet, and sorry, I meant that it was checked to me and I "Bet".

"First hand was bad on the flop, I would bet and see what happened."

I agree.

"Second hand bad on all streets." Please explain further,if you don't mind.

"And third hand: too small bet on flop and then bad all in."
Probably would not have made a difference as winning hand had me covered by quite a bit and wouldn't have folded his pocket queens for any raise. I would have had to call an all-in bet with my twos full of tens anyway. Wouldn't you?

"And I think this is more appropiate in the small stakes part of pot/no limit."

Probably right.

Thanks for comments, Bill

[BottlesOf]

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I just had my first losing session and I feel so violated

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You must be new to poker.

[BillsChips]

Pretty new....around 20 B&M sessions over the last two years. This was my second try at 1/2 NL, which I only played because the casino boat stopped dealing limit games. I won $600 last week in my first NL game and lost $400 last night. I'd prefer to stick with limit poker for the time being, but I have to drive 3 hours for that.

I may give NL one more try, after all, I'm still up.

The problem with the boat is that the session is only 3 hours long, so if you get a bad run of cards you can't recoup.

[swede123]

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How unusual is it to not win a single hand in a three hour session?

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Am I the only one who find this sentence pure unintentional comedy?

Swede

[BottlesOf]

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The problem with the boat is that the session is only 3 hours long.

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Your statement should've ended there.

Play online you can play as long as you want [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[MyMindIsGoing]

Ok, they way I see it:

Second hand: You raised alot UTG and will play your hand out of position the rest of your hand. What hands will call a 10 BB raise? Considering the level of play AK, QQ, JJ will. If anyone has AK they will not reraise such a big raise but they still will call the bet. AQ will become dangerous if an ace hits. And if no ace flops, there is alot of people beating you. You raised to $20 and got many callers, so I assume there is atleast $80 in the pot, betting $30 here is to little. Bet pot on the flop instead. When you get called on the flop you bet way too little on the turn. It does not say if it was a rainbow flop or not but if it was then you will be up against other made hands. I would be most afraid of AK and AJ. When you say you countinue to lead I assume it was on river too. But if you are called by several people on turn on that board, I would not bet the river, the only hand that you might be called by is a worse ace.

Third hand: The call preflop was ok, but I would play the tens for set value here. With 4 others in the pot you got a very fragile hand. There is about $75 in the pot on the flop. I would rather make a big bet here to see where I am with my overpair (very dangerous to play a hand for setvalue and then flop undercards) and then be done with it than a small bet and then a follow up on turn. When the preflop raiser checked he was afraid of those 2's on the flop or he had two overcards. But when you get called someone will often have you beat. Either higher pair och a 2. I would check behind here on turn hoping the person after you checks also, if the preflop raiser checked. If you are ahead you will most likley be ahead on river too, if you are not ahead you will lose alot of money going all in with very few outs if you are behind. Oh and if origial preflop raisor had gone in on turn when a rag comes I would not call there. He simply cannot have a worse hand most of the time.

Anyone disagree?

[Double suited]

I play on the ship in question and I can tell you the level of play is poor. I think you have to look at how you played each time and not look at how much you are up or I only have 3 hours to recover my losses. To give 1/2 NL only another shot after only a couple of outings is premature. What I am trying to say is look at the big picture(how you play) and the results(money will come). Bill maybe I will see you Saturday night.

[BillsChips]

Awesome analysis, thanks for taking the time!

I think, as Double Suited might attest, that you can't count out any hands that might call a raise on this boat. I've seen people go to a showdown with pocket deuces on a board that had straight and flush possibilities with major overcards.

I absolutely admit misplaying these hands after being completely befuddled by the crazy raising and calling that was going on. The last hand of the night had more than $1,500 in it and was chopped three ways by players holding a trey to complete a 6-high straight. I swear this is true.

I never once got to see a flop for free or cheaply from the blinds. The smallest preflop raise was $10 and the typical was $30. There were also many $50 preflop raises, at least one from a guy holding 68o.

I don't know how to play in this game, but winning one or two pots would put you ahead for the night, maybe way ahead. You pros would clean up here.

Even the rare limit games on this boat are wild, but obviously don't have the ridiculous swings of the NL game.

Maybe playing weak-tight would be the way to go for me until I can figure this game out. Otherwise it's back to Foxwoods for 10/20 LHE.

BTW - I knew my winning streak wouldn't last forever. My initial post was a bit tongue-in-cheek.

Bill