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Old 08-20-2005, 04:28 AM
Jdogg Jdogg is offline
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Default Fishy raise on bubble

sorry still am not having luck getting these hh's tweaked to work in the converter... anyway, the raiser has been getting lots of nice hands. In the past hands he has been limping into hands or minraising and winning at the ends showing ak's, etc... So when I was dealt 66 I was waiting for a big raise by him and got one! So I called.

#Game No : 2565575390
***** Hand History for Game 2565575390 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14996763 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Saturday, August 20, 03:00:29 EDT 2005
Table Table 35278 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: jsp123 ( $1210 )
Seat 2: MECardShark ( $710 )
Seat 6: johnntl ( $4775 )
Seat 8: DblCrownRox ( $1305 )
Trny:14996763 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jsp123 [ 6s 6h ]
MECardShark folds.
johnntl raises [1000].
DblCrownRox folds.
jsp123 calls [850].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, Jd, 7d ]
jsp123 bets [150].
johnntl calls [150].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8s ]
jsp123 is all-In [60]
johnntl calls [60].
** Dealing River ** [ 3s ]
jsp123 shows [ 6s, 6h ] a pair of sixes.
johnntl shows [ 4c, 4h ] a pair of fours.
jsp123 wins 2495 chips from the main pot with a pair of sixes.

The guy end up falling apart after this hand going all in with 83o and similar hands and end up ootm I ended in second after a long HU battle.

Justin
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:42 AM
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Default Re: Fishy raise on bubble

There is a law against calling on the bubble, didn't you know?

Luckbox...
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:44 AM
Jdogg Jdogg is offline
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Default Re: Fishy raise on bubble

You dont call bubble bets?
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:49 AM
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Default Re: Fishy raise on bubble

sure, with QQ+ [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: Fishy raise on bubble

Your thought process is terrible. He's big stack, he wants to take over table, and because of the two other short-stacks, your range should be tighter than it should. Still, I have to think that it's profitable to get it in here if he's raising 50% of hands, and he should be.

Taking a 50/50 flip would be terrible here with two other short stacks, and 66 isn't just a dominating favorite.
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Old 08-20-2005, 04:57 AM
Jdogg Jdogg is offline
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Default Re: Fishy raise on bubble

So what should I wait it out for a better spot, or let someone else make a move and get knocked out for me to get third?

Thanks

Justin
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Old 08-20-2005, 05:00 AM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: Fishy raise on bubble

It depends, as always, I haven't run ICM on it, but I think big stack has to be raising a lot for you to call here. I think folding is a very valid decision, as his raise really isn't at all different from a push.
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Old 08-20-2005, 05:02 AM
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Default Re: Fishy raise on bubble

Well the reason I called was because it was the opposite he has been doing with good hands...
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Old 08-20-2005, 06:34 AM
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Default Re: Fishy raise on bubble

That's a terrible call, even if he's raising literally any 2 cards it's still solidly unprofitable.
The main reason why calling here with 66 is bad is that there's a guy who has way fewer chips than you do. Take a thousand off the big stack and give it to the shortie, and calling with 66 becomes profitable if big stack is still pushing any 2.
As it is, SNGPT has it at -1.7%. Even with the 1000 chip switcharoo, it's not a HUGELY profitable call (+0.6%).
Another important consideration is the size of the blinds. The blinds are small enough that if you fold you still have plenty of folding equity; they are also small enough that they don't create much of an overlay.

I think this is a VERY clear fold. I wouldn't even call with 99 or TT against most opponents.
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Old 08-20-2005, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: Fishy raise on bubble

If you are getting involved you might as well just push pf.
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