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Old 08-19-2005, 11:05 PM
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Default Two Tournament Hands that I guess I played wrong

Am I playing this too tight here? Should I re-raise or not bother? Hard for me to tell if its the big stack picking up a pot because it was checked to him or if he has an Ace with a better kicker.

The second hand is the big hand. I pick up Kings and raise it 3x the blind. I get involved with another big stack at the table. An ace flops but so do all spades and I now have Kings plus the nut flush draw. I get raised on the flop, obviously with somebody representing an ace. I don't know what to do.

Table '11248462 86' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: cowboy88888 (5265 in chips)
Seat 2: thedude1832 (1540 in chips)
Seat 3: KnittenKitty (5250 in chips)
Seat 4: dace71 (1685 in chips)
Seat 5: <<69XX96>> (3112 in chips)
Seat 6: tbug91 (4020 in chips)
Seat 7: justinm11 (3019 in chips)
Seat 8: HERO (4929 in chips)
Seat 9: mizuno80 (2475 in chips)
FGators26: posts small blind 50
mizuno80: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [3d Ah]
cowboy88888: calls 100
thedude1832: folds
KnittenKitty: folds
dace71: folds
<<69XX96>>: folds
tbug91: calls 100
justinm11: folds
FGators26: calls 50
mizuno80: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ac 7c 5h]
FGators26: checks
mizuno80: checks
cowboy88888: bets 300
tbug91: folds
HERO: folds
mizuno80: folds
cowboy88888 collected 400 from pot
cowboy88888: doesn't show hand

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Level IV (50/100) - 2005/08/19 - 22:58:51 (ET)
Table '11248462 86' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: cowboy88888 (5365 in chips)
Seat 2: YesDear8 (5406 in chips)
Seat 3: KnittenKitty (4950 in chips)
Seat 4: dace71 (1785 in chips)
Seat 5: <<69XX96>> (3112 in chips)
Seat 6: tbug91 (3920 in chips)
Seat 7: justinm11 (3019 in chips)
Seat 8: FGators26 (7169 in chips)
Seat 9: mizuno80 (1975 in chips)
dace71: posts small blind 50
<<69XX96>>: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Kd Ks]
tbug91: folds
justinm11: folds
HERO: raises 300 to 400
mizuno80: folds
cowboy88888: folds
YesDear8: folds
KnittenKitty: calls 400
dace71: folds
<<69XX96>>: folds
*** FLOP *** [4s 5s As]
FGators26: bets 500
KnittenKitty: raises 500 to 1000
FGators26: calls 500
*** TURN *** [4s 5s As] [Qh]
FGators26: checks
KnittenKitty: bets 1000
FGators26: calls 1000
*** RIVER *** [4s 5s As Qh] [Jc]
FGators26: checks
KnittenKitty: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***

Should I have given the pot up on the turn. I guess I should have....Though he only bet the same that he did on the flop. So I was getting decent odds to hit my flush. Anything over 1,000 I'm mucking and moving on.
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: Two Tournament Hands that I guess I played wrong

You might say about the first hand...what gives? It seems like a stupid hand...but to me it's these types of pots I never pick up. Maybe it's the reason I never get that huge chip stack and always have an average chip stack when it gets close to the final 2-3 tables. You pick up a few pots like that a bad coinflip loss against a shorter stack won't cripple you as much.
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Old 08-20-2005, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: Two Tournament Hands that I guess I played wrong

Have any opinions on these two hands, guys?
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Old 08-20-2005, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: Two Tournament Hands that I guess I played wrong

I'd probally fold PF- but i'm tight like that, give me 98s and i'll call. I think on the flop you have to lead and see what develops. Alternatively you could call the flop and c/f the turn UI.

Hand 2 is trickier- depending on my opponent i might push the flop, you have the nut flush draw and if you think he's capable of folding say ATo without a spade i might push the flop, this line is fine also IMHO.
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Old 08-20-2005, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: Two Tournament Hands that I guess I played wrong

He checked the river, with the ace...which I'll mention because it's really clear that's what he had. (A9).

I put him on an A10 actually, with the way he only minraised and then led 1,000 on the turn.

I was thinking about pushing the flop but wasn't confident it was hitting.

I had just been moved to this table and this guy mentioned as soon as I got there after calling an all in with QJ of hearts, "I CAN gamble sometimes."
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Old 08-20-2005, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: Two Tournament Hands that I guess I played wrong

#1 - I wouldn't worry myself over this hand since they tend to be tricky and you're better off just saving your chips for later.

#2 - I think you can be more aggressive with this hand, especially his turn bet. He only bet 1000 into a pot of what, 2950? That shows weakness to me, especially with the 3-flush out there on the board. I would just move in, because you have your opponent covered, and he will probably fold a hand like a9 (although it wouldn't be beyond the average internet donkey to call). If he calls, you still have 8 outs to the nuts and 2 outs to the two kings left in the deck.
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