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Old 08-19-2005, 10:23 PM
Jeff W Jeff W is offline
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Default A tough(?) river value bet for sfer.

Villain is 66/0.8/0.3 over 122 hands. Maybe this isn't as tough as I think, but it sure was uncomfortable.

Party Poker Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Jeff W is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Jeff W raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Jeff W bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Jeff W bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Jeff W bets</font>.
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Old 08-19-2005, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: A tough(?) river value bet for sfer.

I would just like to say I'm loving these posts. I think there should be a contest for thinnest value-bet and the winner gets a t-shirt.
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Old 08-19-2005, 10:44 PM
kurosh kurosh is offline
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Default Re: A tough(?) river value bet for sfer.

Do value raises count?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.16 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 11.16 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Js 8s (three of a kind, fives).
Hero has Jd Qc (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: Hero wins 11.16 BB. </font>
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Old 08-19-2005, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: A tough(?) river value bet for sfer.

Me likey. He's calling with any pair and the Ace is just one of those pairs he could have.
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Old 08-19-2005, 10:53 PM
Luv2DriveTT Luv2DriveTT is offline
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Default Re: A tough(?) river value bet for sfer.

Nice one Jeff, still a little chuncky around the middle. Lets see thinner [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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Old 08-19-2005, 10:58 PM
Jeff W Jeff W is offline
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Default Re: A tough(?) river value bet for sfer.

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Nice one Jeff, still a little chuncky around the middle. Lets see thinner [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Honestly, I'm looking through all my hands and I have a lot of room for improvement in my value betting.
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:04 PM
Jeff W Jeff W is offline
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Default Re: A tough(?) river value bet for sfer.

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Lets see thinner [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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This one is okay, but when I'm on my game I can make value bets like this with ease:

BB is LAG. Other player is semi-fish(30/11/1.3 over 1500 hands).

Party Poker Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Jeff is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Jeff raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Jeff raises</font>, MP1 calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Jeff bets</font>, MP1 calls, BB calls.

River: (9.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Jeff bets</font>.
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: A tough(?) river value bet for sfer.

I suck. I wouldn't have bet the river.
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:25 PM
Luv2DriveTT Luv2DriveTT is offline
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Default Re: A tough(?) river value bet for sfer.

wow... now THATS a good value bet. Excellent. This is very different from Sfer's post, I think his was an excellent river bet but it wasn't for value.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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Old 08-20-2005, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: A tough(?) river value bet for sfer.

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I would just like to say I'm loving these posts. I think there should be a contest for thinnest value-bet and the winner gets a t-shirt.

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How's this:

party 5/10, I'm in the BB with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

MP (unknown limps), LP sb calls, I check.

Flop 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB checks, I bet, MP folds, SB calls.

Turn: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

check-bet-call.

River: T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Check-bet-call.

Thin, huh?
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