Groundhog Day question...Is it wrong?

[jakethebake]

If Bill Murray killed someone (assume painlessly), knowing they'd be back alive at 5:45 the next morning with no recollection, is it wrong?

[tomdemaine]

What have you heard about Bill Murray? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[TheIrishThug]

if i was 100% sure the person would be alive the next day and i would have no threat of jail or what not, i would consider it. don't know if i'd actually be able to do it though.

[jakethebake]

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if i was 100% sure the person would be alive the next day and i would have no threat of jail or what not, i would consider it. don't know if i'd actually be able to do it though.

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But do you think it's immoral to do?

[BZ_Zorro]

By definition, if they're alive at 6am the next morning, unharmed, you didn't kill them at all. There is a case for assault though.

So yeah, it's immoral, because at some point someone had their consciousness/existence/whatever forcibly removed. Kind of like drugging someone against their will.

[jakethebake]

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By definition, if they're alive at 6am the next morning, unharmed, you didn't kill them at all. There is a case for assault though.

So yeah, it's immoral, because at some point someone had their consciousness/existence/whatever forcibly removed. Kind of like drugging someone against their will.

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But for them the removal of whatever never happened as of the next morning.

[Georgia Avenue]

Is this in reference to the David’s thread on absolute morality? They seem connected…

In my take on morality: Yes, this is immoral. I think about it like +/-EV (as inane as that sounds)…it doesn’t matter what the result is, the objective is to make the best choice for each situation. So, killing a person, even if they don’t actually die, is wrong because (and ONLY because) of its effect on your soul. I realize this leads to a whole slew of complications and paradoxes, but I think this is the only logical path, IF you agree that humans have souls. Most here do not, so I’m surely outnumbered, but there you are.

Part of my belief has to do with recent social-biological findings about the genetic roots of morality, which I would post more about if I hadn’t broken my thumb a few days ago, reducing my typing speed to a crawl. Anyway, good question!

[jakethebake]

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Is this in reference to the David’s thread on absolute morality? They seem connected…

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No. It's a reference to a silly "What would you do in Groundhog Day" 00T thread.

[kurosh]

Well, would Bill Murray consider it wrong? Since the world he's currently in basically ceases to exist the next day and only he can remember it, the world only exists in his mind. Thus, he would be God and the judgement would be left to himself.

[PLOlover]

Once he figured out he could do anything he wanted, didn't he steal a car and get chased by police or something? Joyriding? I can't remember if he got into an accident or anything or if he was trying to run police off the road ...