AA lvl 2 (55 hand)

#1 08-17-2005, 03:20 PM

How was my play on all streets? I was really lost on the flop and just checked because i defenitly would of folded to a re-raise and didnt want to waste chips.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 (t1105)
MP1 (t820)
MP2 (t830)
MP3 (t1095)
CO (t1645)
Button (t970)
SB (t1060)
Hero (t983)
UTG (t1492)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30, 1 fold, MP2 calls t30, 2 folds, Button calls t30, SB completes, Hero raises to t120, UTG calls t90, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls t90, Button calls t90, SB calls t90.

Flop: (t630) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t630) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, Button bets t250, SB calls t250, Hero folds, UTG folds, MP2 folds.

River: (t1130) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t225, Button calls t225.

Final Pot: t1580

I really think i should of raised a lot more preflop, becuas there were so many limpers.

pooh74 · #2 08-17-2005, 03:25 PM

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How was my play on all streets? I was really lost on the flop and just checked because i defenitly would of folded to a re-raise and didnt want to waste chips.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 (t1105)
MP1 (t820)
MP2 (t830)
MP3 (t1095)
CO (t1645)
Button (t970)
SB (t1060)
Hero (t983)
UTG (t1492)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30, 1 fold, MP2 calls t30, 2 folds, Button calls t30, SB completes, Hero raises to t120, UTG calls t90, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls t90, Button calls t90, SB calls t90.

Flop: (t630) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t630) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, Button bets t250, SB calls t250, Hero folds, UTG folds, MP2 folds.

River: (t1130) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t225, Button calls t225.

Final Pot: t1580

I really think i should of raised a lot more preflop, becuas there were so many limpers.

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As a general rule...(i dont stick to it...but) you should raise BBx3 +1 for each limper. 5 limpers + 3bb = 240...I might raise more or less depending on how Ive seen raises called at this table earlier.

Your raise is tantamount to a minraise with this many limpers...

Karak567 · #3 08-17-2005, 03:29 PM

I would raise anywhere from 210-250 preflop depending on how tight the table has been.

You HAVE to bet that flop in my opinion. If you are going to play scared with AA on an undercard flop because it pairs? Ugh, I think a larger preflop raise will solve all your problems here.

adanthar · #4 08-17-2005, 03:37 PM

Me? I just shove PF and wait for eights to call.

#5 08-17-2005, 03:41 PM

I was really considering going all-in, but I doubted anyone woudl call me. Is shoving a good play with this many limpers in?

Karak567 · #6 08-17-2005, 03:42 PM

I like a larger raise in lieu of a PF push.

So what if I get pot committed? I have AA, it's cool.

adanthar · #7 08-17-2005, 03:46 PM

I basically think I'll get a caller with a medium pair or AQ or something enough to justify pushing. If I thought they'd all fold I'd make it 200.

Karak567 · #8 08-17-2005, 03:47 PM

At a 55 I think the umbrella notion is going on here. The later limpers are calling with good flopping hands with good implied odds and the early limpers are limping low PPs/AQ/AJ and will not call a BB all in. At a 22.. maybe. At a 55? I don't think so.

I think I pop it to 200-250 and push the flop no matter what.

adanthar · #9 08-17-2005, 03:50 PM

You might be right, I haven't played them in a while. I do remember having 44 call a few times in LP when I did, though. *shrug*

Karak567 · #10 08-17-2005, 03:52 PM

It's really read dependent. If the table is loose making a lot of spite calls, sure. But I would rather get good value out of my AA. Hell, you might even get two callers which is what you want EV wise. Your all in on the flop has a good chance of getting called, too and you will be ahead a LOT of the time there.

I think the 55s are just a BIT too tight (not that they are really that tight, but ya know what I mean) to make this all in move.