Disconnect-Protection should not exist

Voltron87 · #1 07-14-2005, 10:47 AM

Far more money is won by cheaters who abuse this than is saved by honest players. Discuss.

primetime32 · #2 07-14-2005, 11:10 AM

I can see the problem people have with it, however, some of us who do not have a great connection all the time (using a wireless router) appreciate the option. We have all been the victim of it once or twice, but that is the price we pay.

From what i can tell most of the major sites now provide tables that do not allow disconnect protect, so this is really a non-issue for 95 percent of us.

evans075 · #3 07-14-2005, 11:12 AM

Maybe the option is to have more no DP tables than ones that have it!

sexdrugsmoney · #4 07-14-2005, 11:16 AM

We've all seen people who abuse it, only to two hands later come back and alive again. Yes it's incredibly cheap, and sure its unfair.

But lets look at the other side of the coin, what if you are playing the best poker of your life and knee deep in a pot that you are a favorite to win and suddenly your connection cuts out - whether you are 56k, or your ADSL provider goes down, or your house blows a fuse - good honest people who don't abuse DP need it in times like this.

I think DP should stay, but poker sites should be very frugal about monitoring DP and how many times it is used by a player per month and how long it takes them to get back in action.

My 0.02.

evans075 · #5 07-14-2005, 11:26 AM

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We've all seen people who abuse it, only to two hands later come back and alive again. Yes it's incredibly cheap, and sure its unfair.

But lets look at the other side of the coin, what if you are playing the best poker of your life and knee deep in a pot that you are a favorite to win and suddenly your connection cuts out - whether you are 56k, or your ADSL provider goes down, or your house blows a fuse - good honest people who don't abuse DP need it in times like this.

I think DP should stay, but poker sites should be very frugal about monitoring DP and how many times it is used by a player per month and how long it takes them to get back in action.
My 0.02.

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The lines I made bold are two really good points. If the second one was true this Post would be pointless. As we know though Poker sites fail to do this. If they were persistant on this as well as collusion instead of Poker databases that many people only use to track one-self play rather than others, me included, I belive there would be better poker online. I ran into possible collusion last night where I was in LP with QQ faced with a bet and a raise on the flop of Kxx I folded due to no reads on the raiser. Turn and river were checked through. Final show down, raiser had QJo and bettor had 33, 33 Won the pot. I made a not and watched for them to try it again but I ended up leaving B4 I could catch it again. But, back to the DP it serves both sides, good and bad. Poker sites should def. monitor this as they do poker databases. NH sexdrugsmoney!

HRFats · #6 07-14-2005, 04:22 PM

Can someone explain how DP is used to cheat? I see people get disconnected all the time but I never thought they were cheating. I just thought their ISP sucked. Tell me what to watch for so I can report them and find a different table. Thanks.

Sephus · #7 07-14-2005, 04:26 PM

if someone makes a bet that you don't want to call, disconnecting basically lets you take the rest of your money off the table.

Zetack · #8 07-14-2005, 04:38 PM

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Far more money is won by cheaters who abuse this than is saved by honest players. Discuss.

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My beef is with not being able to have DP for all the tables I'm playing. Really sucks to only have one DP and get disconnected while involved in pots on 3 tables.

To another poster, I don't see what's significant about somebody coming back 2 hands after a disconnect. I come back as soon as I get reconnected.

--Zetack

HRFats · #9 07-14-2005, 04:41 PM

So basically if they have a decent hand but not the nutz they can disconnect and win the pot if they have the best hand? Do they win the whole pot - even the amounts bet after they got disconnected? Jeeze - what a scam. Disconnect rather than fold and there is no downside...

witeknite · #10 07-14-2005, 05:03 PM

When you disconnect, you are treated as all-in. You can't win any additional bets that go in, but it gets rid of reverse implied odds.

As to the question posed by the OP, I can count on one hand the number of times I've see someone disconnect. Unfortunatly I play on a dial-up link part the time. Disconnect portection has saved me numerous times.

WiteKnite