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Old 08-14-2005, 07:55 PM
alta_chuttes alta_chuttes is offline
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Default I screwed up every postflop street

Opponent is 27/19 over 2500 hands with postflop aggression factors of 3.2/3.2/2.6 and a 33 went to showdown.

I should just check-raise the flop and if 3-bet or raised on the turn plan on a showdown absent another spade, right?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.33 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (4.66 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 6.66 BB
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Old 08-14-2005, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: I screwed up every postflop street

Lead the flop, lead the turn, lead the river. If he has a good spade he will let you know. If hes calling with some crap spade, thats how it goes sometimes.
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Old 08-14-2005, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: I screwed up every postflop street

why lead the flop as opposed to check-raise?

I was thinking he bets most anything on the flop and its "easier" for him to raise a flop lead than to 3-bet a flop check-raise with a big spade. Plus if he can 3-bet the flop CR, I have charged him 1 more sb for the "free card".

I feel I would have to call and check the turn if my flop donkbet is raised, would you play otherwise?
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Old 08-14-2005, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: I screwed up every postflop street

Check-raise the flop and go from there... this is not a board you want to be playing top pair slow on.
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Old 08-14-2005, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: I screwed up every postflop street

and showdown unless another spade comes, right. Same whether he 3-bets the flop or raises a turn lead?
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Old 08-14-2005, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: I screwed up every postflop street

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Check-raise the flop and go from there... this is not a board you want to be playing top pair slow on.

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Could you explain why check-raising is better than leading out or check-calling?
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Old 08-14-2005, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: I screwed up every postflop street

I lead the flop because I want 0 chance of a free card &amp; I'm hoping to get raised &amp; put 3 bets in on the flop.
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Old 08-14-2005, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: I screwed up every postflop street

PF: I'll toss this pf UTG
Flop: C/r the flop
Turn: Bet the turn, if he calls the flop c/r and turn bet, you're behind and can c/f the river
River: See turn play
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Old 08-14-2005, 08:35 PM
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Default Re: I screwed up every postflop street

K9 UTG 4-handed is also CO. I raise every time here 4-handed &amp; expect to get a lot of really crappy players to call me with terrible hands because "its 4-handed"
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Old 08-14-2005, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: I screwed up every postflop street

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K9 UTG 4-handed is also CO. I raise every time here 4-handed &amp; expect to get a lot of really crappy players to call me with terrible hands because "its 4-handed"

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