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Old 08-13-2005, 05:04 PM
krazyace5 krazyace5 is offline
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Default Nobody can butcher pocket AA like I can....

or any hand for that matter, lol [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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SB ($76.40)
BB ($26.35)
UTG ($57.95)
Hero ($48.25)
Button ($64.27)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, Button calls $3, SB (poster) calls $2.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $15</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($40) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($40) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button calls $46.27 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $86.27

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Button doesn't show.
Outcome: Button wins $86.27. </font>




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CO ($9.47)
Button ($43.50)
Hero ($99.14)
BB ($48.45)
UTG ($80.12)
MP ($124.53)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $2.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $2.50, MP calls $2.50.

Flop: ($9.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, UTG calls $3, MP calls $3.

Turn: ($18.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $118.53 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $151.03

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. MP wins $151.03. </font>
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Old 08-13-2005, 05:09 PM
amoeba amoeba is offline
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Default Re: Nobody can butcher pocket AA like I can....

wouldn't you feel silly in hand 1 if he just called the flop?

bet a bit more on the flop. on the end I think you make a read and go with it. I don't think the way you played it was horrible.

hand 2 is butchered. you are way too easy to read if you underbet like this. do you underbet here with QQ, JJ? probably not.

I'm not sure why you folded the turn either. there are many more hands than 67 that plays this way. and you got 10 outs against 67.
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Old 08-13-2005, 05:14 PM
krazyace5 krazyace5 is offline
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Default Re: Nobody can butcher pocket AA like I can....

I am trying to get my aggression up so I have been raising alot more hands preflop today than usual, on the 2nd hand I wanted to look
like I missed and it worked, to well I guess, was thinkin about callin and my time ran out, kicked my self after my cards were folded as usual.
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Old 08-13-2005, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Nobody can butcher pocket AA like I can....

I am NOT folding the second hand NO MATTER WHAT
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Old 08-13-2005, 09:09 PM
pokerjoker pokerjoker is offline
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Default Re: Nobody can butcher pocket AA like I can....

hand one it seems like u know what u did wrong...u gotta reraise flop big.

hand 2 is read dependant. is he a guy that plays qj/76 here? if not call, how much does he need to go allin? with no read i might call here...at worst you have 10 outs..and i dont figure him for the straight for sure...but its difficult.
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Old 08-13-2005, 09:57 PM
stu-unger stu-unger is offline
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Default Re: Nobody can butcher pocket AA like I can....

hand 1: bet more on the flop

hand 2: there are 3 hands u r behind and i see a lot more hands pushing this turn that u r way ahead of. i dont think i see QJ or 67 pushing this turn enough to lay this down in this game.
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Old 08-13-2005, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: Nobody can butcher pocket AA like I can....

Flop bet in hand 2 makes me vomit. I'd probably call the turn.
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Old 08-13-2005, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: Nobody can butcher pocket AA like I can....

In the second hand, I think his possible spread of hands are QJ (16), 67 (16), A10 (6), 89h (1), 89 not hearts (8), 99 (6), 88 (6). I don't need to work this out to know this call's correct, but here:

QJ or 67: 32 * .227 = 7.264
A10 or 89 not hearts: 14 * 1 = 14
89h = 1 * .795 = .795
99 or 88 = 12 * .977 = 11.724

EE = (7.264 + 14 + .795 + 11.724)/49 = .689

Plus, he's less likely to push with a straight, so your EV is monstrous here. DON'T FOLD.
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Old 08-14-2005, 12:20 AM
yvesaint yvesaint is offline
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Default Re: Nobody can butcher pocket AA like I can....

Aaah! Why did you fold the second hand??
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Old 08-14-2005, 02:05 AM
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Default Re: Nobody can butcher pocket AA like I can....

hand 1
make a real bet on the flop. that way, if u are raised then u have an easier decision. as it was played u need to decide if u have the best hand or not; fold or push imo.

hand 2

where to begin. on yea, raise more pf. u are oop with limpers. then when u flop a hand, SHOVEL MONEY IN THE POT. why do u want to bet weak when u flop something good. 89 is pushing a real bet from you, j10 could not be run out of the pot with the threat of nuclear war and ak....ax is taking out a mortgage to meet whatever u can put into the pot. give u self a shot at a big pot, as it was played u gave them a shot to outdraw u. also, i am not folding just b/c a gutshot hit. u have redraws, this is 50NL, for all we know he has 44.
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