I Think I REALLY F'd Up, Please Help! (long)

MeanGreenTT · #1 08-15-2005, 01:56 PM

I hesitate to even post this but I need help [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I've been playing seriously for about a year now and while I only consider myself a weekend warrior, I've had several MTT cashes with 2 1sts totalling over $6k. I've also cashed quite frequently live with a recent 1st and 4th for over $2k (I haven't tracked my MTT play as religiously as my SNG games but my bankroll says I'm up [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] )

Point is, I'm not such a noob that I don't know how to win and have been there....but after reviewing my recent hand history in the $100 Legends Satellite (2 seat, 3 get paid and I took 3rd, $2,500) I'm starting to feel like a WEAK-TIGHT PUSSY!

My other "major" cash to date was the Paradise PalmTree $10 R&A for just over $4k but playing for "this much", I just got excited and I think I went into protect mode WAY too much. I had the mindset that when we got down to the final table, I'd play it like an SNG, I didn't want to do anything stupid, wanted to accumulate but had to give myself a shot to seat and to do that I needed to make the top5 1st.....BAD logic I know!!!

I think I missed some MAJOR opportunities and I'm not looking back and being "results oriented" I'm just looking at certain situations and knowing what I should've known and seeing what happened when I did raise and take down pots uncontested, that means I SHOULD'VE been doing the same with JUNK/MARGINAL hands EVERYTIME it was folded to me and I had the LEAST bit of position, right?

I'd like to post a few hands here and see what the line is...I REALLY attribute my success with the WEALTH of information that's available here and I'd really appreciate some help here. I really think I ended up blowing a seriously legitimate shot at going to California [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

MeanGreenTT · #2 08-15-2005, 01:56 PM

1 Seat 7 is the button (antes 100)
Seat 1: Byrd1958 (15,547 in chips)
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (37,830 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (21,850 in chips)
Seat 5: F___ O__ (29,778 in chips)
Seat 7: mreyno (14,102 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue Runner (22,137 in chips)
Blue Runner: Post Small Blind (1,000)
Byrd1958: Post Big Blind (2,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Th ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Jh ]
MeanGreenTT:???

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2 Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Byrd1958 (10,247 in chips)
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (38,130 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (19,550 in chips)
Seat 5: F___ O__ (37,078 in chips)
Seat 7: mreyno (13,802 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue Runner (22,437 in chips)
Fish God: Post Small Blind (1,000)
F___ O__: Post Big Blind (2,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Qc ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Jc ]
mreyno : Fold
Blue Runner: Fold
Byrd1958: Call (2,000)
MeanGreenTT:???

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3 Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Byrd1958 (11,647 in chips)
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (37,930 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (18,350 in chips)
Seat 5: F___ O__ (33,878 in chips)
Seat 7: mreyno (17,202 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue Runner (22,237 in chips)
mreyno : Post Small Blind (1,000)
Blue Runner: Post Big Blind (2,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Ts ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Kc ]
Byrd1958: Fold
MeanGreenTT: ???

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4 Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: Byrd1958 (11,547 in chips)
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (37,830 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (18,250 in chips)
Seat 5: F___ O__ (31,778 in chips)
Seat 7: mreyno (16,102 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue Runner (25,737 in chips)
Blue Runner: Post Small Blind (1,000)
Byrd1958: Post Big Blind (2,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 3d ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 3h ]
MeanGreenTT: ???

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Start of Final Table - CAROGERS is a known AGGRESSIVE player

5 Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Byrd1958 (10,947 in chips)
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (40,230 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (18,050 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (62,357 in chips)
Seat 5: F___ O__ (31,578 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (18,522 in chips)
Seat 7: mreyno (15,902 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (72,977 in chips)
Seat 9: pokeraddict6 (3,400 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue Runner (24,537 in chips)
MeanGreenTT: Post Small Blind (1,000)
Fish God: Post Big Blind (2,000)
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 8s ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Ah ]
mdacemd : Fold
F___ O__: Fold
Mad Maxx: Fold
mreyno : Fold
CAROGERS: Call (2,000)
pokeraddict6: Fold
Blue Runner: Fold
Byrd1958: Call (2,000)
MeanGreenTT: ???

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6 Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Byrd1958 (8,847 in chips)
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (39,130 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (15,950 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (62,257 in chips)
Seat 5: F___ O__ (31,478 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (18,422 in chips)
Seat 7: mreyno (15,802 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (78,877 in chips)
Seat 9: pokeraddict6 (3,300 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue Runner (24,437 in chips)
Fish God: Post Small Blind (1,000)
mdacemd : Post Big Blind (2,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 7h ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Jh ]
F___ O__: Fold
Mad Maxx: Fold
mreyno : Fold
CAROGERS: Fold
pokeraddict6: Fold
Blue Runner: Fold
Byrd1958: Fold
MeanGreenTT: ???

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7 Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Byrd1958 (8,747 in chips)
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (39,030 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (14,850 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (64,157 in chips)
Seat 5: F___ O__ (31,378 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (18,322 in chips)
Seat 7: mreyno (15,702 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (78,777 in chips)
Seat 9: pokeraddict6 (3,200 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue Runner (24,337 in chips)
mdacemd : Post Small Blind (1,000)
F___ O__: Post Big Blind (2,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Jc ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 9d ]
Mad Maxx: Fold
mreyno : Fold
CAROGERS: Fold
pokeraddict6: Fold
Blue Runner: Fold
Byrd1958: Fold
MeanGreenTT: ???

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8 Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: Byrd1958 (8,447 in chips)
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (38,730 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (18,550 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (66,857 in chips)
Seat 5: F___ O__ (28,078 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (15,022 in chips)
Seat 7: mreyno (17,402 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (78,477 in chips)
Seat 9: pokeraddict6 (2,900 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue Runner (24,037 in chips)

mreyno : Post Small Blind (1,000)
CAROGERS: Post Big Blind (2,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Jc ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Qc ]
pokeraddict6: Call (2,000)
Blue Runner: Fold
Byrd1958: Fold
MeanGreenTT: ???

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9 Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: Byrd1958 (8,347 in chips)
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (38,630 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (18,450 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (66,757 in chips)
Seat 5: F___ O__ (25,178 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (14,922 in chips)
Seat 7: mreyno (16,302 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (76,377 in chips)
Seat 9: pokeraddict6 (9,600 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue Runner (23,937 in chips)
CAROGERS: Post Small Blind (1,000)
pokeraddict6: Post Big Blind (2,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 9s ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Kd ]
Blue Runner: Fold
Byrd1958: Fold
MeanGreenTT: ???

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10 Seat 2 is the button (antes 150)
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (42,430 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (14,900 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (51,685 in chips)
Seat 5: F___ O__ (22,278 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (32,491 in chips)
Seat 7: mreyno (15,752 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (73,827 in chips)
Seat 9: pokeraddict6 (26,250 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue Runner (18,887 in chips)
Fish God: Post Small Blind (1,500)
mdacemd : Post Big Blind (3,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ As ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 2d ]
F___ O__: Fold
Mad Maxx: Fold
mreyno : Fold
CAROGERS: Fold
pokeraddict6: Fold
Blue Runner: Fold
MeanGreenTT: ???

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11 Seat 3 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (42,280 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (13,250 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (54,385 in chips)
Seat 5: F___ O__ (22,128 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (32,341 in chips)
Seat 7: mreyno (15,602 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (73,677 in chips)
Seat 9: pokeraddict6 (26,100 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue Runner (18,737 in chips)
mdacemd : Post Small Blind (1,500)
F___ O__: Post Big Blind (3,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Td ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 6h ]
Mad Maxx: Fold
mreyno : Fold
CAROGERS: Call (3,000)
pokeraddict6: Fold
Blue Runner: Fold
MeanGreenTT: ???

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12 Seat 7 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (47,530 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (18,500 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (52,285 in chips)
Seat 5: F___ O__ (17,028 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (27,241 in chips)
Seat 7: mreyno (16,352 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (75,927 in chips)
Seat 9: pokeraddict6 (25,500 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue Runner (18,137 in chips)
CAROGERS: Post Small Blind (1,500)
pokeraddict6: Post Big Blind (3,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Qh ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Js ]
Blue Runner: Fold
MeanGreenTT: ???

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13 Seat 4 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (48,532 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (45,250 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (69,163 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (23,341 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (73,527 in chips)
Seat 9: pokeraddict6 (20,100 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue Runner (18,587 in chips)
Mad Maxx: Post Small Blind (1,500)
CAROGERS: Post Big Blind (3,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Kd ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Js ]
pokeraddict6: Fold
Blue Runner: Fold
MeanGreenTT: ???

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14 Seat 10 is the button (antes 200)
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (50,482 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (44,650 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (68,563 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (60,532 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (55,286 in chips)
Seat 9: pokeraddict6 (7,000 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue Runner (11,987 in chips)
MeanGreenTT: Post Small Blind (2,000)
Fish God: Post Big Blind (4,000)
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 3d ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 3c ]
mdacemd : Fold
Mad Maxx: Fold
CAROGERS: Fold
pokeraddict6: Fold
Blue Runner: Raise (11,787)
MeanGreenTT: ???

MeanGreenTT · #3 08-15-2005, 01:58 PM

15 Seat 3 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (48,082 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (38,250 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (61,563 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (60,132 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (54,886 in chips)
Seat 9: pokeraddict6 (16,600 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue Runner (18,987 in chips)
mdacemd : Post Small Blind (2,000)
Mad Maxx: Post Big Blind (4,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 9c ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Th ]
CAROGERS: Fold
pokeraddict6: Fold
Blue Runner: Raise (8,000)
MeanGreenTT: ???

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16 Seat 4 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (47,882 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (38,050 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (59,363 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (41,145 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (54,686 in chips)
Seat 9: pokeraddict6 (16,400 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue Runner (40,974 in chips)
Mad Maxx: Post Small Blind (2,000)
CAROGERS: Post Big Blind (4,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 6h ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Ah ]
pokeraddict6: Fold
Blue Runner: Fold
MeanGreenTT: ???

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17 Seat 6 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (47,682 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (37,850 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (59,163 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (46,345 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (50,486 in chips)
Seat 9: pokeraddict6 (16,200 in chips)
Seat 10: Blue Runner (40,774 in chips)
CAROGERS: Post Small Blind (2,000)
pokeraddict6: Post Big Blind (4,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 6c ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Ah ]
Blue Runner: Fold
MeanGreenTT: ???

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18 Seat 9 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (64,882 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (65,624 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (58,763 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (32,545 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (74,286 in chips)
Seat 9: pokeraddict6 (2,400 in chips)
MeanGreenTT: Post Small Blind (2,000)
Fish God: Post Big Blind (4,000)
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Th ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Ks ]
mdacemd : Fold
Mad Maxx: Fold
CAROGERS: Raise (12,000)
pokeraddict6: Fold
MeanGreenTT: ???

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19 Seat 4 is the button (antes 300)
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (73,482 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (59,024 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (52,163 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (5,945 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (106,086 in chips)
Seat 9: pokeraddict6 (1,800 in chips)
Mad Maxx: Post Small Blind (2,000)
CAROGERS: Post Big Blind (4,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 6s ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 8d ]
pokeraddict6: Call All-in (1,600)
MeanGreenTT: ???

you can see that CAROGERS is getting aggressive
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20 Seat 6 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (73,282 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (58,824 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (51,963 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (14,290 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (100,141 in chips)
CAROGERS: Post Small Blind (3,000)
MeanGreenTT: Post Big Blind (6,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 2c ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 8d ]
Fish God: Fold
mdacemd : Fold
Mad Maxx: Raise (13,990)
CAROGERS: Fold
MeanGreenTT: ???

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21 Seat 8 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (66,982 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (58,524 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (51,663 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (24,490 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (96,841 in chips)
Fish God: Ante (300)
mdacemd : Ante (300)
Mad Maxx: Ante (300)
CAROGERS: Ante (300)
MeanGreenTT: Ante (300)
MeanGreenTT: Post Small Blind (3,000)
Fish God: Post Big Blind (6,000)
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 4s ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Th ]
mdacemd : Raise (15,000)
Mad Maxx: Fold
CAROGERS: Fold
MeanGreenTT: ???

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22 Seat 2 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (63,682 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (52,224 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (61,863 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (24,190 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (96,541 in chips)
Fish God: Post Small Blind (3,000)
mdacemd : Post Big Blind (6,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 5h ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 6s ]
Mad Maxx: Fold
CAROGERS: Fold
MeanGreenTT: ???

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23 Seat 4 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (63,082 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (59,124 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (52,263 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (28,090 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (95,941 in chips)
Mad Maxx: Post Small Blind (3,000)
CAROGERS: Post Big Blind (6,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 8d ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Js ]
MeanGreenTT: ???

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24 Seat 6 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (62,782 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (33,824 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (51,963 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (24,790 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (125,141 in chips)
CAROGERS: Post Small Blind (3,000)
MeanGreenTT: Post Big Blind (6,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Qs ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 6c ]
Fish God: Raise (18,000)
mdacemd : Fold
Mad Maxx: Fold
CAROGERS: Fold
MeanGreenTT: ???

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25 Seat 2 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (63,682 in chips)
Seat 3: Fish God (37,724 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (51,363 in chips)
Seat 6: Mad Maxx (24,190 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (121,541 in chips)
Fish God: Post Small Blind (3,000)
mdacemd : Post Big Blind (6,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 3d ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 5d ]
Mad Maxx: Fold
CAROGERS: Call (6,000)
MeanGreenTT: ???

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26 Seat 4 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (63,082 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (41,763 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (193,655 in chips)
CAROGERS: Post Small Blind (3,000)
MeanGreenTT: Post Big Blind (6,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Qc ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Jh ]
mdacemd : Fold
CAROGERS: Raise (30,000)
MeanGreenTT: ???

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27 Seat 2 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (53,482 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (75,563 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (169,455 in chips)
mdacemd : Post Small Blind (3,000)
CAROGERS: Post Big Blind (6,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 6h ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 9c ]
MeanGreenTT: ???

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28 Seat 4 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (53,182 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (72,263 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (173,055 in chips)
CAROGERS: Post Small Blind (3,000)
MeanGreenTT: Post Big Blind (6,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ Td ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 8s ]
mdacemd : Fold
CAROGERS: Raise (29,000)
MeanGreenTT: ???

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29 Seat 2 is the button
Seat 2: MeanGreenTT (28,582 in chips)
Seat 4: mdacemd (90,563 in chips)
Seat 8: CAROGERS (179,355 in chips)
mdacemd : Post Small Blind (3,000)
CAROGERS: Post Big Blind (6,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 3d ]
Dealt to MeanGreenTT [ 4c ]
MeanGreenTT: ???

IHateKeithSmart · #4 08-15-2005, 02:14 PM

Hey Mean:

Of course, these are all situation dependent, but here are my readless thoughts on the first 12 hands (steal opp = steal opportunity, ie. raise depending on situation). YMMV.

1 - raise
2 - call/raise
3 - raise
4 - raise
5 - fold
6 - steal opp
7 - steal opp
8 - call/raise
9 - steal opp
10 - fold/steal opp
11 - fold
12 - fold