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08-11-2005, 05:33 PM
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This is why I hate raising out of the SB
Both of these guys are pretty LPP. They could have any pair. *sigh*
I don't know how I feel about the flop bet, but it isn't horrible IMO. I was lost on the turn. Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, CO calls, Button calls. Flop: (8 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, CO calls, Button calls. Turn: (5.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero folds 
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#2
08-11-2005, 05:38 PM
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Re: This is why I hate raising out of the SB
6.5:1 on 4 probably super clean outs and say 2.5 for the ace and 1-1.5 for the jack.
So 7 outs or so. I could see the fold. I could also see betting since it's a pretty close/marginal situation and I like people folding dumb stuff to my bets. You could also be ahead if they are passive. To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what the correct answer is here. It's probably going to have to be left up to a read, which sucks if all you have is LPP. Certainly, check/fold isn't too wrong, if it is at all. I'm actually starting to like it.
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08-11-2005, 05:39 PM
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Re: This is why I hate raising out of the SB
With 3 other people and this board, just check the flop. You take this flop down far less than the pot is laying you and it sucks to put in 2BB on this flop when someone raises you. Check/call 1 bet and reevaluate the turn.
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#5
08-11-2005, 05:41 PM
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Re: This is why I hate raising out of the SB
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With 3 other people and this board, just check the flop. You take this flop down far less than the pot is laying you and it sucks to put in 2BB on this flop when someone raises you. Check/call 1 bet and reevaluate the turn. [/ QUOTE ] I like and this is what I would do too. Some reason, reading this post kind of disoriented me. Didn't realize we are 4 handed to the flop. You don't take this down enough.
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#7
08-11-2005, 06:16 PM
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Re: This is why I hate raising out of the SB
With that board I'll fire again on the turn due to the draw heavy board. If you only get one caller, I'll frequently fire again on a river blank and watch someone with the draw fold. I know it's a bet that only gets called if I'm beat, but I hate checking and watching them bet and wondering if they're just outright bluffing with 85s that missed. And at 3/6 anyway I actually will get called by lower Aces periodically.
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#8
08-11-2005, 06:18 PM
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Re: This is why I hate raising out of the SB
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This is why I hate raising out of the SB then stop doing it with this hand [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] *Sigh* I was about to. But then my hand gravitated towards the raise button. Should I not be raising here?
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#9
08-11-2005, 06:18 PM
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Re: This is why I hate raising out of the SB
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This is why I hate raising out of the SB then stop doing it with this hand [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] i'm raising 2 LP limpers everytime with AJo here.
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#10
08-11-2005, 06:19 PM
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Re: This is why I hate raising out of the SB
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[ QUOTE ] This is why I hate raising out of the SB then stop doing it with this hand [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] i'm raising 2 LP limpers everytime with AJo here. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, but it doesnt mean he has to.
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