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Old 08-11-2005, 02:40 PM
Bartholow Bartholow is offline
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Default Unimproved hidden aces in possible steal situation before my vacation

First off, I'd like to get out of the way that I'll be gone for just over a week. More importantly, tomorrow (Friday) night I'll be in the DC area, good chance I'll be hanging out at The Big Hunt, a bar near that one circle place. Dupont? Something. If any of the multitude of DC area stud players wants to get a beer, send me a PM.

On to the hand: Seat 2 is a relative unknown, doesn't seem too donkish. Bring-in player is good overall, but (like me?) tends to pay off a bit too much. Would anyone just call on 3rd? Would anyone bet the river?


7 Card Stud High ($20/$40), Ante $2, Bring-In $5 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (0.40 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___completes___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 4: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (4.65 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (3.33 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (5.33 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls

River - (7.33 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___checks
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks

Total pot: (7.33 BB)
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:49 PM
beta1607 beta1607 is offline
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Default Re: Unimproved hidden aces in possible steal situation before my vacation

I like your raise on 3rd to clear the field.

Since your opponent "tends to pay off a bit too much"
means betting the river is a mistake. He wont fold jacks up so there is no value in a bet.
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:52 PM
Bartholow Bartholow is offline
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Default Re: Unimproved hidden aces in possible steal situation before my vacation

The bring-in, who folded on 3rd, is the guy who pays off too much. That said, I wouldn't necessarily be betting the river to try to get ANYONE to fold jacks up. When he checks, it greatly increases the chance he has only 1 pair. Or he's going to checkraise [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: Unimproved hidden aces in possible steal situation before my vacation

I think you played this hand perfectly.

Do you think you could steal this pot from JJ99??

I work in dupont circle. I'll PM you.
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: Unimproved hidden aces in possible steal situation before my vacation

3rd street is an easy raise...I would just check behind on the river. My guess is this guy prob started with two nines or a smaller pair in the hole. Your play makes it seem like a pocket pair is a good possibility for you. So he may check two pair here fearing you made aces or kings up or whatever. His calls on 4th and 5th with a ragged board imply he started with a pair - a 3 flush prob gives up on 5th (same with just big cards in the hole).

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Old 08-11-2005, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: Unimproved hidden aces in possible steal situation before my vacation

[ QUOTE ]
First off, I'd like to get out of the way that I'll be gone for just over a week. More importantly, tomorrow (Friday) night I'll be in the DC area, good chance I'll be hanging out at The Big Hunt, a bar near that one circle place. Dupont? Something. If any of the multitude of DC area stud players wants to get a beer, send me a PM.

On to the hand: Seat 2 is a relative unknown, doesn't seem too donkish. Bring-in player is good overall, but (like me?) tends to pay off a bit too much. Would anyone just call on 3rd? Would anyone bet the river?


7 Card Stud High ($20/$40), Ante $2, Bring-In $5 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (0.40 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___completes___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 4: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (4.65 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (3.33 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (5.33 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls

River - (7.33 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___checks
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks

Total pot: (7.33 BB)

[/ QUOTE ]

I am going to the beach this weekend or i would have got a beer. I work only a few blocks away.

As for the hand I would play it the same...though not exactly true since I am too chicken to play that at those stakes.
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:57 PM
PoorLawyer PoorLawyer is offline
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Default Re: Unimproved hidden aces in possible steal situation before my vacation

[ QUOTE ]
I think you played this hand perfectly.

Do you think you could steal this pot from JJ99??

I work in dupont circle. I'll PM you.

[/ QUOTE ]

where in dupont do you work? My office is north of the circle near Sette...want to buy a house with your poker winnings [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 08-11-2005, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Unimproved hidden aces in possible steal situation before my vacation

I work at the Brookings Institute at 1776 Mass Ave
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Old 08-11-2005, 03:02 PM
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I work at the Brookings Institute at 1776 Mass Ave

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you are on my treacherous bike ride home down mass then...
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Old 08-11-2005, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: Unimproved hidden aces in possible steal situation before my vacat

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He wont fold jacks up so there is no value in a bet.

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There's a decent chance he started with no pair. I still check, but I've seen some players even call with just one open pair here to "prevent a bluff".
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