KK-too fast?

crosse91 · #1 08-07-2005, 05:02 AM

i really would like some feed back on if i played it too fast
i think maybe a raise to about 80 or so would've been best, but i did NOT want to see a diamond come out.
=====>maybe it was b/c of a horribly bad night that i wanted to push this so fast and get when i was a guaranteed favorite.

Anyways, PLEASE comment on this hand

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) converter

MP2 ($30.50)
MP3 ($415.30)
CO ($139.20)
Button ($83.45)
SB ($217.50)
Hero ($282.10)
UTG ($76)
UTG+1 ($145.25)
MP1 ($169.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 raises to $6, 2 folds, CO calls $6, 1 fold, SB calls $5, Hero raises to $25, MP1 calls $19, CO calls $19, SB folds.

Flop: ($81) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $20, CO calls $20, Hero raises to $120, MP1 folds, CO folds.

Final Pot: $241

reads-mp1 likes to limp alot, had a pfr of 2.5 through 73 hands, but was very liberal postflop (i think he folded a-k here)
lp- i have no earthly idea. Queens, jacks are all possibilities. I am more leaning towards some sort of suited broadway (flush draw)

Also- a raise to 80 and a call by mp1 give lp odds to call on flush draw (approx. 4-1) so how do you guys approach this?

redrooski24 · #2 08-07-2005, 05:15 AM

I think you need to lead this flop, when you C/R here you turn your cards face up for anyone with half a brain. I like leading for 2/3 - full pot. If you are raised I might get it all in on the flop or stop n go push the turn(barring no diamond).

crosse91 · #3 08-07-2005, 10:44 AM

good thoughts. i usually wouldn't check a set here, so i don't know why i checked my kings.

BirdieLongSocks · #4 08-07-2005, 10:53 AM

You haft to lead on the flop.

crosse91 · #5 08-07-2005, 11:03 AM

i was really hoping that they would make a decent about potsized raise so i could put them all in- mp was very aggressive and lp was decently so.

BirdieLongSocks · #6 08-07-2005, 11:08 AM

It aint worth risking a diamond to fall. If they are aggro they will probobly raise you if they have something.

crosse91 · #7 08-07-2005, 02:02 PM

Bump-i want to make sure the consensus is to bet the flop.

ajmargarine · #8 08-07-2005, 02:55 PM

You HAVE to bet the flop here. You raised OOP against a PFR and 2 callers. I'm betting here, and I am betting the least I can get away with, as right now you are WA. Lead for around $50-$60. Best case scenario, one of them has AK and calls you down. Or even better, one of them chases a flush, hits it while you boat up, and you stack 'em.

PS. Flush draw is 4.22:1 with nine outs. The 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] isn't an out, making it only 8 outs for a flush, and 4.88:1.

ryanghall · #9 08-07-2005, 04:39 PM

Lead the flop for the size of the pot. Your check-raise makes a strong hand quite apparent. As played, you did fine. With their stack sizes you might as well just push.

Ryan