30-60 Flopped Nuts ... CAP IT

[FatalError]

Anyone HATE this line? for those of you that don't know ranja is 90/10/0.77 over a bazillion hands, he loves to cap it out of nowhere with some random stuff. moon is 71/12/1.2 and is a station , other guy in hand seems decent

my logic is that overcalls here have more value than raising, blowing out the 2 guys drawing slim and then getting 3 bet by a flush... i think by not raising i picked up 2 extra bets from 2 overcallers which is about the same number of bets i think i get by raising the turn

***** Hand History for Game 2481667281 *****
$30/$60 Texas Hold'em - Friday, August 05, 10:27:25 EDT 2005
Table Table 48936 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: az123004 ( $812.83 )
Seat 2: jollyroger11 ( $2036.86 )
Seat 4: moonrockbar ( $999.40 )
Seat 5: ranja700 ( $5965.65 )
Seat 7: RubelRollski ( $2118.46 )
Seat 10: Hero ( $1403.50 )
Seat 6: amitsvc ( $2280 )
Seat 3: midga624 ( $2161.65 )
Seat 8: BINGO168 ( $321 )
Seat 9: BJVJMB12 ( $2135 )
BJVJMB12: AA no good
az123004 posts small blind [$15].
jollyroger11 is sitting out.
midga624 posts big blind [$30].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ah Js ]
moonrockbar calls [$30].
ranja700 calls [$30].
amitsvc folds.
RubelRollski folds.
BINGO168 folds.
BJVJMB12 folds.
Hero calls [$30].
az123004 folds.
midga624 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Qs, Kh ]
midga624 checks.
moonrockbar bets [$30].
Hero: it's aces
BJVJMB12: Aj for 120
ranja700 calls [$30].
Hero: they don't win every time
Hero raises [$60].
midga624 raises [$90].
moonrockbar calls [$60].
BJVJMB12: i know
ranja700 raises [$90].
Hero calls [$60].
midga624 calls [$30].
moonrockbar calls [$30].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
midga624 checks.
moonrockbar checks.
ranja700 bets [$60].
Hero calls [$60].
midga624 calls [$60].
jollyroger11 has left the table.
moonrockbar calls [$60].
** Dealing River ** [ 5d ]
midga624 checks.
MrBason has joined the table.
moonrockbar checks.
ranja700 bets [$60].
Hero calls [$60].
az123004: caught a 2 outer to make the nuts
midga624 calls [$60].
moonrockbar folds.
ranja700 shows [ 9c, Jh ] a straight, nine to king.
Hero shows [ Ah, Js ] a straight, ten to ace.
midga624 doesn't show [ Td, Qh ] two pairs, queens and tens.
Hero wins $1032 from the main pot with a straight, ten to ace.
whew

[W. Deranged]

I don't see much reason not to cap the flop, particularly with the station behind you.

Turn play is really excellent in my opinion, particularly with the nut redraw.

River I think is much closer between raising and looking for overcalls. I probably favor a raise because I assume at least one of the turn callers will drop, and since I have the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in my hand I'm a little less worried about getting three-bet.

Edit: Ship this pot immediately... sup lj.

[FatalError]

you make a good point, i did'nt really consider getting 3 bet by a flush cus i have the ace of trump... but ranja will 3 bet ANY flush here

[deacsoft]

Cap it.

[xniNja]

Most people here will probably tell you to cap it... I think capping the flop is fine, but calling the turn is generally the best play. In this case you know your opponent "ranja" is capable of raising with anything, but normally you're looking at a made flush on the turn.. why pay for your own draw? If you raise here, you probably kick out anyone still drawing to the flush or straight if yours is still good, and can only be re-raised by a better hand.

[Bartholow]

The problem with calling with the absolute nuts is you miss out on the chances to jam the pot with a second-nut hand. This spot doesn't look completely aweful to call, but for the above reason I would at least raise the river.

[Yeti]

Cap that [censored].

[FatalError]

I know it's tough to see without the bison hand conversion but i did cap the flop, the question is on turn play