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Old 08-03-2005, 04:12 PM
hemstock hemstock is offline
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Default Made flush on the turn. River puts 4 to the flush.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (9 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

River: (17 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 21 BB

I don't think reads are really important here. Should I have folded the river? I would be really surprised if my hand was still good.
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Old 08-03-2005, 04:15 PM
imported_The Vibesman imported_The Vibesman is offline
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Default Re: Made flush on the turn. River puts 4 to the flush.

I don't think you can fold for one bet here. If you are good 1 in 20 or so you will break even. Call and cry.
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Old 08-03-2005, 04:41 PM
2+2 Junkie 2+2 Junkie is offline
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Default Re: Made flush on the turn. River puts 4 to the flush.

You are probably beaten, but you can't fold a flush. Call here.
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Old 08-03-2005, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: Made flush on the turn. River puts 4 to the flush.

Call. Kick the cat.
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Old 08-03-2005, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: Made flush on the turn. River puts 4 to the flush.

You played it fine.
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Old 08-03-2005, 09:09 PM
hizo1 hizo1 is offline
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Default Re: Made flush on the turn. River puts 4 to the flush.

Grunching

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I would be really surprised if my hand was still good.

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Me too, but this is a great place to just call and go for the overcalls. I like the call here. NH.
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Old 08-03-2005, 09:38 PM
GrandmaStabone GrandmaStabone is offline
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Default Re: Made flush on the turn. River puts 4 to the flush.

[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (9 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

River: (17 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 21 BB

I don't think reads are really important here. Should I have folded the river? I would be really surprised if my hand was still good.

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- grunching -

I don't like the call on the river. HU this might be debatable but you have BB betting AND A CALLER. Your 10- high flush has to beat BB's hand (possibly) and the callers hand (less likely) and it is not that strong IMO.
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Old 08-03-2005, 09:40 PM
GrandmaStabone GrandmaStabone is offline
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Default Re: Made flush on the turn. River puts 4 to the flush.

^^^^^^^^

even after seeing the other replies I still feel this is correct with 4 players involved in this river.
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Old 08-03-2005, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: Made flush on the turn. River puts 4 to the flush.

Two cards beat you A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and j [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] The chance someone was holding the 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or below and something else is your read. I would fold as with a better and a caller. With that many high cards on the board I would expect to see you beat. If however you held the J I would call.

Ps. Did BB have Either AK or AA with the A of spades?
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Old 08-03-2005, 10:10 PM
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Default Re: Made flush on the turn. River puts 4 to the flush.

I don't see folding here getting 19:1 with the third nuts and no action other than the PFR still betting.
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