Bet into on the turn with marginal holding.

TripleH68 · #1 08-01-2005, 01:51 PM

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MP1 is a solid player. Over 229 hands I have him 19/5/2.55. WTSD=38%. My notes say "solid player postflop."
His stats show me tight preflop. Likely around 15/8/2.2.

So villain raises two early limpers, smooth calls the flop and bets into me on the turn...

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 4 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, UTG folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets...

What do you put villain on here?

McGahee · #2 08-01-2005, 02:01 PM

Tough to put him on a hand here. If the limpers are weak I suppose he could've flopped a double bellybuster w/ J9s, could have lots of K's, could have a straight/flush draw...
Folding this every time vs. an aggressive player would be weak and calling is 'meh'. Good spot to raise it up and check the river.

hemstock · #3 08-01-2005, 02:01 PM

Weird action.
If he has AK, why didn't he raise the flop with that AF?
I don't think 88's are a possibility. But how did the 8 helped him?

But then again, he could be multiplaying or watching porn or something and quickly called the flop withouth paying attention.

silkyslim · #4 08-01-2005, 02:01 PM

With you having QQ, what raising/call 3-bet after two limpers hands don't include a king? AJ, 99, TT, maybe JJ. You are behind any king and TT. Would he really gaybet with AJ, 99, or JJ? You get 4-1 calling down, which I think is small enough to justify folding.

tiltaholic · #5 08-01-2005, 02:05 PM

AT of hearts
and nothing else. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

deception5 · #6 08-01-2005, 02:10 PM

I think you're ahead here reasonably often. I could see a hand like 99 betting this turn picking up an oesd. Other possibilities could be JJ or AJs (hearts).

I would raise and fold to a 3-bet, taking a free showdown on the river.

Edit: Ooh, yeah AT [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is another good possibility.

TripleH68 · #7 08-01-2005, 02:44 PM

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

MP1 is a solid player. Over 229 hands I have him 19/5/2.55. WTSD=38%. My notes say "solid player postflop."
His stats show me tight preflop. Likely around 15/8/2.2.

So villain raises two early limpers, smooth calls the flop and bets into me on the turn...

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 4 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, UTG folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets...Hero raises, MP1 calls.

River: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Check, check.

Villain turns A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

After posting this hand I immediately thought it was routine, but maybe it is a little back to basics! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I was surprised to see A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Added to my notes to watch for isolation raises from this guy. Good reads, thanks.

tiltaholic · #8 08-01-2005, 02:49 PM

man. i almost nailed it! do i get partial credit?
i always biff the hand reads posts too...

i like your turn raise.

McGahee · #9 08-01-2005, 02:57 PM

NH - sucks when you have them pegged and get sucked out.

Fantam · #10 08-01-2005, 03:00 PM

I put villain on a range of AA,KK,TT,AK and KQ. I think you are most likely beat and would fold.

Interestingly enough, if I had been villain, I would have preferred to check/call to showdown. Thats because I think that would have been the most likely way to extract the most bets from a hand he beat that might have 3-bet preflop like yours, such as QQ or JJ.