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Old 07-29-2005, 05:47 AM
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Default Generally a good fold with JJ or too weak?

I am fairly new at the table when this hand occurs. The way I see it I make the worst mistake by not reraising a good amount pre-flop. The small bet into the PF-raiser scares me, making me think he has 33/66/77 or perhaps 67 since he limped and the called the raise. However, I decide to checkraise and let go of the hand if called. That is exactly what happends, and therefore I check-fold the turn and Carl shows me that he was making an...interesting...play with 79o...Know that Carl was a fish calling that checkraise with 79, I would have bet the turn, however I did not have any read on him when the hand was played. Any opinions/suggestions?

Game #738817044: Texas Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1) - 2005/07/28 - 12:17:08 (ET)
Table "Steelton" Seat 5 is the button.
Seat 1: Gran27093 ($49.10 in chips)
Seat 2: G-Unit25 ($23 in chips)
Seat 3: hexecutor ($56 in chips)
Seat 4: Dazphelps ($50.96 in chips)
Seat 5: Lanc02061 ($158.90 in chips)
Seat 6: mbman1 ($158 in chips)
Seat 7: Frank004 ($111.25 in chips)
Seat 8: fgur ($81.44 in chips)
Seat 9: Daane ($139.75 in chips)
Seat 10: Carl23092 ($47.45 in chips)
mbman1: posts small blind $0.50
Frank004: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to mbman1 [Jc Jh]
fgur: folds
Daane: folds
Carl23092: calls $1
Gran27093: calls $1
G-Unit25: folds
hexecutor: raises to $3
Dazphelps: folds
Lanc02061: folds
mbman1: calls $2.50
Frank004: folds
Carl23092: calls $2
Gran27093: calls $2
----- FLOP ----- [7h 6c 3c]
mbman1: checks
Carl23092: bets $3
Gran27093: calls $3
hexecutor: calls $3
mbman1: raises to $12
Carl23092: calls $9
Gran27093: folds
hexecutor: folds
----- TURN ----- [7h 6c 3c][2d]
mbman1: checks
Carl23092: bets $32.45 and is all-in
mbman1: folds
Returned uncalled bets $32.45 to Carl23092
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Carl23092: shows [7c 9s] (A Pair of Sevens, Nine high)
Carl23092 collected $41 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $43 Main pot $41 Rake $2
Board [7h 6c 3c 2d]
Seat 1: Gran27093 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: G-Unit25 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: hexecutor folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Dazphelps folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Lanc02061 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: mbman1 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 7: Frank004 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: fgur folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Daane folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: Carl23092 showed [7c 9s] and won ($41) with A Pair of Sevens, Nine high
****HAND ENDS****
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Old 07-29-2005, 05:48 AM
alphatmw alphatmw is offline
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Default Re: Generally a good fold with JJ or too weak?

before i saw the results i thought he had A7. he probably put you on overcards. i'd call this easy. no aggression PF means he probably doesn't have an overpair to your jacks...
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Old 07-29-2005, 05:56 AM
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Default Re: Generally a good fold with JJ or too weak?

I just saw almost this exact hand at my table.

flop is 4-handed Q 6 3, some betting and all-ins, someone shows KK, other one shows 45 and turn is 7.

So to be short: at $25NL, you just don't know. This is probably a break-even call. It looks like a lot of dead money, so that's good for you.
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Old 07-29-2005, 06:08 AM
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Default Re: Generally a good fold with JJ or too weak?

Yup, was sure he didn't have QQ-AA, that's not too hard to figure out. But ruling out 33/66/77/67 is a little bit more difficult. What made me sucpicious though is that he went all-in pretty damn fast on my check, usually a sign of weakness which has made me regret not calling there. But its always easy to say that when you have the results, would have felt damn stupid if he had turned over trips..
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Old 07-29-2005, 06:10 AM
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Default Re: Generally a good fold with JJ or too weak?

This was at 100$ NL though, at 25 I'd call immideately..however, after this hand I'm starting to think that 100$ NL isnt that different if you play against the right players...
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