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Old 07-23-2005, 07:14 PM
ChuckyB ChuckyB is offline
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Default Is my hand dead?

Heads-up at end of winner-take-all 14-man home tournament. I pushed all-in with A2, villain called with A5. We both turned our cards up in front of us and waited.

A96TQ hit the board. I lamented that I didn't hit my 2. We both assumed the tournament was over and we were yakking about the night. The cards never moved from where we flipped them.

Two minutes later someone said "Isn't that a split pot?" We realized it was...then we had no idea what to do. I thought since the cards were never mucked, then we should split and continue. I'm the one who knows the rules the best (that's not saying much), so we continued playing.

Should my hand have been dead? Or were we right to continue?
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Old 07-23-2005, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: Is my hand dead?

Sounds like you did the right thing to me. It is a split pot your hand was never mucked.

Mike
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Old 07-23-2005, 09:46 PM
ThinkQuick ThinkQuick is offline
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Default Re: Is my hand dead?

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Should my hand have been dead?

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Why in the world would your hand be dead? Because you thought you lost??

No.. cards speak, luckily you thought the game was over and didn't continue dealing or anything else more confusing, and you can simply split the pot and continue. Once a hand is tabled it is everyones responsibility to ensure that the best hand gets the pot (or a split occurs), and there is nothing you can do to get the hand declared dead.
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Old 07-23-2005, 09:47 PM
stu-unger stu-unger is offline
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Default Re: Is my hand dead?

u really should know this if u r playing for real money and it should be a house or dealer ruling. i dont see why play shouldnt commence the cards stayed face up, but u should employ the dealer calls rule cause this is pretty obvious.
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Old 07-24-2005, 09:36 AM
Lottery Larry Lottery Larry is offline
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Default Re: Is my hand dead?

"dealer calls rule "

What is this?
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Old 07-24-2005, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Is my hand dead?

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u really should know this if u r playing for real money and it should be a house or dealer ruling. i dont see why play shouldnt commence the cards stayed face up, but u should employ the dealer calls rule cause this is pretty obvious.

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What in the world are you talking about? Dealer calls?

Anyway, yes it's a split pot and no your hand wasn't dead. You tabled your cards face-up in an all-in situation.
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:44 PM
neotope neotope is offline
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Default Re: Is my hand dead?

It is a shame this game is so far away. Sounds like a great game to play in. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-25-2005, 12:13 AM
ChuckyB ChuckyB is offline
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Default Re: Is my hand dead?

Hey...I know how to check-raise, so you be careful.

Seriously 14 people x $5 Canadian...not really worth a good player's time.
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Old 07-25-2005, 12:19 AM
ChuckyB ChuckyB is offline
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Default In an earlier situation...

There was some complaining, because I ruled that the hands should both still be live even though we were thisclose to handing out the cash.

To go back earlier in the evening...
Since most of the players are true beginners, we had a rule that all players show their cards if they call or are called on the river. Early on one player didn't show his cards on the river when his opponent showed him a straight. The first player tossed his cards face-down into the muck. 10 seconds later, he realized he made a full house on the river. My ruling was that his cards were dead because they were mucked.

When the hand from the original post came up people wanted to know why it was different. (Some thought I was jigging the rules to my advantage.) I tried to explain "the muck" to them...but to no avail.
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Old 07-25-2005, 07:32 AM
Lottery Larry Lottery Larry is offline
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Default Re: In an earlier situation...

Both rulings are good. You might want to spell them out in your own rulebook
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