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Old 07-27-2005, 08:12 AM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default My SNG Woes

After playing a handful of SNGs last night I'm beginning to find the area I need most improvement in my play. I'm having trouble managing an 8-12bb stack 5-6 handed. For those of you who have overcome this struggle, would you be willing to share HHs where these conditions are met?
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Old 07-27-2005, 08:17 AM
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Default Re: My SNG Woes

Don't have time to find HHs now but after reading all the advice on this forum I definitely ended up being too aggressive in this period. Once I tightened up in this area (just a tiny little bit) my results skyrocketed.
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:28 AM
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Don't have time to find HHs now but after reading all the advice on this forum I definitely ended up being too aggressive in this period. Once I tightened up in this area (just a tiny little bit) my results skyrocketed.

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Old 07-27-2005, 08:48 AM
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The answer to your problem is this: fold.

You basically shouldn't be playing a hand unless you're willing to commit with the hand. Solidity is the key, wait for the game state to change and then respond to that.
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Old 07-27-2005, 08:55 AM
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Solidity is the key, wait for the game state to change and then respond to that.

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Old 07-27-2005, 10:14 AM
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Solidity is the key, wait for the game state to change and then respond to that.

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Sorry, that was a bit unclear. What I meant is that pretty soon you'll either nail someone for a double-up, or you'll get blinded or blinds will increase so that your stack isn't 8-12 BB anymore. Medium-short stack play is lots of folding followed by lots of moving allin.
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Old 07-27-2005, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: My SNG Woes

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The answer to your problem is this: fold.

You basically shouldn't be playing a hand unless you're willing to commit with the hand. Solidity is the key, wait for the game state to change and then respond to that.

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So for example, fold your 55 on the button (when folded to)?

I have been folding in spots like these because this isn't a hand that I want to commit to.

Is this going too far?
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Old 07-27-2005, 09:38 AM
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The answer to your problem is this: fold.

You basically shouldn't be playing a hand unless you're willing to commit with the hand. Solidity is the key, wait for the game state to change and then respond to that.

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So for example, fold your 55 on the button (when folded to)?

I have been folding is spots like these because this isn't a hand that I want to commit to.

Is this going too far?

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I would fold or push depending on the blinds, the players left, and the stacks around the table. Folding there is often fine, and rarely a mistake of consequence IMO.
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:26 AM
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The answer to your problem is this: fold.

You basically shouldn't be playing a hand unless you're willing to commit with the hand. Solidity is the key, wait for the game state to change and then respond to that.

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So for example, fold your 55 on the button (when folded to)?

I have been folding in spots like these because this isn't a hand that I want to commit to.

Is this going too far?

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No, I don't think so. 8 is getting pretty borderline, with less than 8 I think you should definitely shove.

I don't have a problem with raising either. But blind stealing with medium stacks is just not that important. If you find it making you uncomfortable, just dispense with it. Even if it's costing you small EV, it simplifies your playing, which will help you play more tables at once if you want to.

Blind stealing in the mid game does not win SNGs. SNGs are won by not wasting your stack early and by proper pushing technique when the blinds are huge. If you grind out a 25 chip edge here 49 times and then the 50th time you blunder and lose your stack, you've probably cost yourself all the gains.
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Old 07-27-2005, 09:36 AM
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The answer to your problem is this: fold.

You basically shouldn't be playing a hand unless you're willing to commit with the hand. Solidity is the key, wait for the game state to change and then respond to that.

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Yeah, that's it in a nut shell.
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