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Old 07-13-2005, 03:54 AM
Wizard0965 Wizard0965 is offline
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Default Small Suited Cards in SB vs. very loose people

Table is very loose. I believe each of my moves is correct but I'd like you guys to confirm or debate . . .


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Preflop: Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB
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Old 07-13-2005, 03:57 AM
grjr grjr is offline
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Default Re: Small Suited Cards in SB vs. very loose people

I'm not cappin'. Actually I'm probably dumping this pre-flop since there's only one limper.
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Old 07-13-2005, 04:03 AM
Eeegah Eeegah is offline
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Default Re: Small Suited Cards in SB vs. very loose people

(grunching)
I think you're okay. Unless he's a maniac I can't think of anything he'd raise preflop that would have him betting the flop and subsequently backing into a flush. I'm guessing villain has AA, KK or AK.
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Old 07-13-2005, 04:04 AM
Dave G. Dave G. is offline
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Default Re: Small Suited Cards in SB vs. very loose people

Fold preflop. This isn't a hand you want to go short handed or heads up with.

The rest looks good.

I like the river cap. BB raised preflop, raised the flop and continues betting, so I'm not putting him on the backdoor flush. I put him on AA, AK or KK, none of which makes a flush possible for him. Given that he 3-bet the river, KK is likely, and you've got him by the balls. Nice hand.
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Old 07-13-2005, 04:20 AM
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Default Re: Small Suited Cards in SB vs. very loose people

You're asking the BB to raise when you bet this flop. Why do you want that to happen? You'll just kick out utg and pay too much to see the turn.

I also would hate to pay 1.5 sb to see the flop with this hand.
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Old 07-13-2005, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: Small Suited Cards in SB vs. very loose people

preflop is ehh

flop bet and river cap are worse
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Old 07-13-2005, 04:25 AM
Dave G. Dave G. is offline
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Default Re: Small Suited Cards in SB vs. very loose people

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flop bet and river cap are worse

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Flop bet probably isn't that great, but why is capping the river bad? What is BB holding that beats us here given the action?
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Old 07-13-2005, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: Small Suited Cards in SB vs. very loose people

for some reason I thought it was the reg fd that hit the river, not the BD one, which makes it less likely that hero is behind here

too tired to really put thought into hands right now it seems

the flop bet still blows goats though
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Old 07-13-2005, 05:42 AM
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Default Re: Small Suited Cards in SB vs. very loose people

preflop is borderline bad and really depends on the quality of your post-flop play, which considering the flop bet, isn't all that good. that pushes PF into a definitely bad play, unless you've got some sort of read you aren't telling us about.

i'm too tired to explain why the flop bet sucks, but others can probably elaborate for me.

fold PF until you learn how to better play this postflop.
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Old 07-13-2005, 06:07 AM
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Default Re: Small Suited Cards in SB vs. very loose people

flop bet is bad, but pot is big enough to call down for your 8 outer. yes some of them are [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]'s, but HU, i doubt UTG has 2 hearts.

Villain might have the BDFD, but not often enough for putting in 1 more BB to cap the river to be wrong.
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